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RM, In God We Trust → In God we trust, Moved, 27 April 2012, discussion
RM, In God we trust → In God We Trust, Moved, 17 May 2016, discussion
RM, In God We Trust → In God we trust, No consensus, 12 May 2019, discussion

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 07:35, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the first time "In God We Trust" appeared as a motto was in 1748 in Pennsylvania, more than 200 years before it became the national motto of the United States? Source: Pennsylvania Gazette, Jan 1748
- ALT1:... that "In God We Trust" was displayed on coins of the United States since 1864, and that since 1955, the motto must appear on all U.S. currency? For 1864 coin, For legislation mandating "In God We Trust"
- ALT2:... that school districts in Lexington and Hodgenville protested against a Kentucky mandate to hang a copy of the United States national motto by showing $1 bills and oversized 1¢ coins, which contain the motto? Source: The Guardian

- ALT3:...that "In God We Trust" appeared as a motto the first time in 1748 in Pennsylvania, that it was first struck on U.S. currency on a 2¢ piece in 1864 and that since 1955, the motto must appear on all U.S. currency? Source: per above

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Improved to Good Article status by Szmenderowiecki (talk). Self-nominated at 16:41, 9 August 2021 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Szmenderowiecki , hooks are great, I personally prefer ALT1. And what do you think of this one? It would be mix of hook 1 and 2 and is below the 200 characters without bold and wls. ... that "In God We Trust" appeared as a motto the first time in 1748 in Pennsylvania, is displayed on coins of the United States since 1864 and as of 1955 the motto must appear on all U.S. currency?

"As of" sounds as if it were a requirement in 1955 but now we aren't sure whether it's still a requirement 65 years later (it is still law).

My version: ALT1+2: ...that "In God We Trust" appeared as a motto the first time in 1748 in Pennsylvania, that it was first struck on U.S. currency on a 2¢ piece in 1864 and that since 1955, the motto must appear on all U.S. currency? (192 characters)

I prefer ALT3, but ALT1 and ALT2 are also good. Good to go.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 16:10, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

To T:DYK/P1

Initial Adoption Sextion - Salmon Chase Inspiration - alma mater

Perhaps the citation (35) is correct and Walter Breen erroneously wrote that Chase drew inspiration from his alma mater, Brown University. I do not believe Chase ever attended Brown. I believe he attended Dartmouth, which has a much different motto. 2600:1000:B027:67FF:1440:BE3D:D723:1BA6 (talk) 00:40, 7 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed Szmenderowiecki (talk) 13:35, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wiktionary

@Moons of Io & Valjean: Why do you revert this? I suggest adding that template for words of the phrase. --5.43.67.185 (talk); 17:20, 26 July 2023 (UTC) [e][reply]

Of all the stupid shit you keep doing here, this is one of the most innane. We do not wikilink common words, and doing the same with Wiktionary is just as stupid.

Do you realize that if you accidentally make a good edit it will likely get reverted because your track record shows nothing you do can be trusted? What's sad about this is that you are obviously intelligent, very experienced here, and know the ropes quite well, yet you're just screwing around. If you seriously think you're improving things, then you need help, because you are delusional. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 17:27, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Is it a moto or a slogan?

Also, from a literary perspective, is it preferable to put those words in quotes or italics? 2600:8801:BE01:2500:9CAE:629:EB7B:BE0E (talk) 18:17, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]