Talk:J. Peters

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Name[edit]

I'm uncomfortable with naming an article for a pseudonym. If this is Joseph Peters, then let's call the entry "Joseph Peters". If Joseph Peters is the same person as "J. Peters" writer of the handbook on party organizing, that deserves a mention, but why make the abbreviation the name of the article?

As I mentioned back on 19:08, 25 May 2005 page 27 of the NCIE document refers to Sandor Goldberger being AKA Joseph Peters. Was Sandor Goldberger a birthname?

Office of the National Counterintelligence Executive. American Revolution into the New Millennium: A Counterintelligence Reader: Cold War Counterintelligence PDF file (http://www.nacic.gov/history/CIReaderPlain/Vol3Chap1.pdf). Volume 3, Chapter 1. U.S. Government on line publication. No date. Retrieved May 25, 2005. DJ Silverfish 20:21, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It appears Joszef Peter (no "s") was his birth name; it was Anglicized to Josef Peters and later again to Joseph Peters (the later probably by posthumous writers). Most prominently he was known as J. Peters, the name he was published under and brings up the most hits. Alexander Goldfarb, Isador Boorstein and Alexander Stevens and Sandor Goldberg are all psydonyms that he was able to acquire through the fake passport business at World Tourist, Inc. (The same source that got Earl Browder convicted).Whittaker Chambers Testimony before HUAC 3 August 1948 even gives Goldenweis as his name. The Chambers testimony also has an interesting digression while discussing Peters as to how all these fake birth certificates and passports were obtained. As of now, I beleive Goldberg was another psydonym, but I'm not through researching the subject. If "Peter" was not his birth name, we may never know what it really was. Nobs01 20:44, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I think "J. Peters" is the most obvious search form and the article is fine with that name. We don't list John Wayne as "Marion Morrison," do we? Carrite (talk) 23:54, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
Also, the above by Nobs01 is incorrect, "Sándor Goldberger" was the birth name according to his biographer (which is the title of Chapter 1, removing all doubt). Jószef Peter (no S) was the pseudonym used in the American Communist movement in the 1920s. This appears in print in reverse order, per the Hungarian custom, but the surname was "Peter" regardless of the order it appeared in print in Uj Élore. "J. Peters" is obviously a closely constructed pseudonym based upon this earlier name. There were other pseudonyms, of course... "Alexander Stevens" is the name the man used himself from the 1940s until his death, so far as I'm aware, and that would also be a legitimate name for this article, in my opinion. I've established a redirect, but favor the common search name, per above. Carrite (talk) 18:15, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

POV issues[edit]

There needs to be a general rewriting to this biography to eliminate POV issues. The newly published biography of Peters should be more broadly utilized. Carrite (talk) 23:56, 16 March 2011 (UTC)