Talk:Jacob Hägg

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A fact from Jacob Hägg appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 17 September 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that according to family tradition, admiral and painter Jacob Hägg decided to become a naval officer after seeing a Franco-British naval force during the Crimean War?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2023/September. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Jacob Hägg.

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The result was: promoted by Vaticidalprophet (talk) 16:50, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Painting of the ship L'Aigle by Hägg

... that according to family tradition, admiral and painter Jacob Hägg (painting pictured) decided to become a naval officer after seeing a French-British expeditionary force sail past Gotland during the Crimean War? Source: In Swedish: "Djupt imponerad av de allierade engelsk-franska flottorna, som 1854 seglade förbi Visby, bestämde sig H för att bli sjöofficer." From here. Also in Soop (offline) who tempers it by adding it is according to a family tradition.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Phallichthys tico
- Comment: Pic could be replaced with the photo of him, but I thought it would be nicer with one of his paintings.

Created by Yakikaki (talk). Self-nominated at 15:56, 28 August 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Jacob Hägg; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

This DYK nomination meets the following criteria: New (article created on 28 August), and Long enough (prose has 6,663 characters, 1,500 is min). Regarding the Within policy criteria, the following should be addressed: Sekundlöjtnant, Sub-lieutenant, Lieutenant, and Lieutenant commander ranks are unsourced in the prose. The article is neutral and although the sources are in Swedish, I did a few spotchecks and I did not find any copvios. The hook has more than 200 characters, my recommendation would be to cut according to family tradition, from the hook. The hook is interesting and is cited in the article. QPQ already done. Image is appropriately licensed, it is used in the article, and its size stands well. Vacant0 (talk) 10:31, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review Vacant0! Yes, I miscalculated the hook length, it seems. Still, to remove according to family tradition, would possibly misrepresent the facts (since we don't have further confirmation this was the reason he joined the navy); but how about replacing it with "allegedly" or perhaps even better,

ALT 1: ... that admiral and painter Jacob Hägg (painting pictured) is said to have decided to become a naval officer after seeing a French-British expeditionary force sail past Gotland during the Crimean War?

or

ALT 2: ... that according to family tradition, admiral and painter Jacob Hägg (painting pictured) decided to become a naval officer after seeing a French-British naval force during the Crimean War?

As for the unreferenced list, it was added by another editor after I nominated the article. I don't think it adds much myself and will remove it. Yakikaki (talk) 14:53, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

EDIT: I found the source for the list of his grades and added it(and a photo of Hägg as a young man). Yakikaki (talk) 14:58, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think that Alt 2 looks better. The issue with the list has been resolved. We will now wait for an uninvolved editor to review the discussion and close it. Vacant0 (talk) 15:03, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]