Talk:Jedwabne pogrom

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Education Minister Anna Zalewska[edit]

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In July 2016, Polish Education Minister Anna Zalewska raised the concern of Jewish organizations when, during a television interview, she made comments attempting to downplay Polish participation in the 1941 massacre. Though Polish courts convicted Polish nationals of complicity shortly after the war, Minister Zalewska indicated her belief that only Nazis performed the killings. Jewish organizations protested, with some calling for the minister’s dismissal. Meanwhile, the Mayor of Jedwabne called for the exhumation of remains on grounds that it might help ascertain who, precisely, committed the killings.[1]

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I invite the editors who have been involved, Beagle16, Poeticbent, and 68.192.217.181, to discuss the merits of this paragraph instead of continuing to edit war over it. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 19:23, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

  • Minister Anna Zalewska said nothing of significance. The 11:19 minute interview – complete – about the projected education reform in Poland is available online, with written commentary by magazine FAKT24.PL. Minister Zalewska was questioned by TV personality Monika Olejnik about a lot of things such as class sizes and the ministry's budget, including historical subjects covered by the new curriculum. Zalewska said that she is not a historian and she does not aspire to know what actual subjects would be included in the new textbooks. The broadcast is not available where I live,[1] however, Minister Zalewska was interviewed about it again by Agnieszka Burzyńska. The interviewer (8:20 min) brought up the subject of Jedwabne asking if Jedwabne would find its way to the new curriculum. The Minister said that the schoolbooks usually include confirmed historical facts without going into surrounding controversies among scholars. Burzyńska pressed on, that the Poles burned the Jews, and that that is a fact. Zalewska replied: "that's what Mr. Gross says"; change of subject. Please note, twice in her interview Zalewska insisted that she is an administrator – not a historian – and that she has no say in the matter.[2] In my personal view, the fast-pace exchange between these two women has grown into a classic Tempest in a teapot. Please note, the TV series hosted by Monika Olejnik is titled "political storm" (hence the type of questions asked by her). Poeticbent talk 20:59, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

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Thank you, Poeticbent, for your reply. Unfortunately I don't understand Polish, and Google Translate is doing a god-awful job on those two pages, but I get the gist of what they say thanks to your comments. I'm not convinced this kerfuffle is important enough to include in this historical article, and WP:ONUS says that just because reliable sources have written about something doesn't guarantee its inclusion in the encyclopedia. My mind is still open, though, and I'm looking forward to hearing from one of the supporters of including it. Thanks again. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 01:56, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
PS: I came across a very similar, but worse written, paragraph in the BLP of Anna Zalewska. I removed it per WP:BLP and WP:ONUS. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 02:05, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

I've been asked to provide input here, after editing the relevant section at Anna Zalewska - but I don't think the issues are the same. AZ's comments may not be important enough for the historical article about the pogrom, so I am not opposed to removing them or describing them only very briefly here, but they ARE highly important in an article about HER, given the public outcry they generated. Impact Hub (talk) 20:08, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

Background[edit]

I believe that two facts should be mentioned:

Xx236 (talk) 10:12, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

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