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The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Wilbysuffolk Talk to me 18:06, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]


– Not the primary topic. In fact, I'm not even convinced that the person is even notable. I have suggested a disambiguator of 'Ireland', which is generally not appropriate, as disambiguation should be done for what a person was notable for. But after reading the article, I have no clue what I could choose as a dab. Schwede66 01:33, 5 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • A move to John Stanislaus Joyce would be appropriate. And I strongly oppose deletion - John was an interesting man in his own right who has been considerably written about. Ellmann's biography of James deals with him in some detail. I also just today randomly came upon a biography of him - here - which I think clearly established notability. john k (talk) 21:44, 5 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Well, if a couple of authors went to the trouble to write a biography of him, then that's a good indication of notability. I just wonder whether he was known by his full name. If he wasn't known by his middle name, then to use it for the mere purpose of disambiguation is not the proper way of doing it. My '(Ireland)' dab isn't that elegant either, but those who know more about him can possibly come up with something more appropriate. Schwede66 09:21, 6 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • The biography calls him "John Stanislaus Joyce," so that seems like good evidence to base naming the article that. I recall Ellmann using his middle name a fair bit, as well. john k (talk) 01:05, 7 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment You will find that once the page gets moved, the number of hits will drop somewhat. Many of the hits will be from search engines, many will be from people wanting to find out about John Joyce (which is obviously not necessarily this person), and there are always some pages linked to the article that hasn't got a dab (with those links created by editors who don't check whether they are wikilinking to the right person). Schwede66 03:28, 7 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.