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Review: October 6, 2019. (Reviewed version).

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Pak Kum-chol

Considering this is under GA review, I'd suggest at the very least Pak Kum-chol should be stubbed. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 11:12, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Done – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 21:27, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Reviewer: Piotrus (talk · contribs) 11:27, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Very interesting and well written article. Few comments:

while I support WP:RED should Choe Chae-ryon be linked? Is she notable on her own?
"Pak's ally Yi Hyo-sun was charged of personally failing covert operations in South Korea" - this sentence is unclear, please rewrite. ("personally failing covert operations" doesn't make sense). If it relates to the next sentence, please make it more obvious.
Kim acquired permission from his loyal party members in a secret meeting to remove the Kapsan faction -> do we know the date of this meeting?
Pak Kum-chol was sent to work in a factory in the countryside and later executed -> do we know the date of his execution?
Even its name was omitted in propaganda until recently. -> can 'recently' be made more precise? Keep in mind in few decades this term will be of course incorrect
pausing for now, will finish reviewing soon

Thank you, Piotrus.

Done: I've unlinked Choe Chae-ryon
Doing... Will rephrase the sentence
- Done it.
Doing... The source says March, but the warnings were also in March. I'll have to think about how to word this.
I'll have to check a few more sources at the library. Apparently, some sources give a date and also talk about a possible suicide.
- Done now.
Doing... The source is a bit ambiguous on whether the actual name of the speech returned or just mentions of it. Anyway, this happened during Kim Jong-il's rule. I'll have to figure out how to phrase it.
- Done!

Cheers – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 21:59, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

- Thanks! Continued:
- The Kapsan Faction Incident was "a watershed in North Korean politics". -can we attribute this quote?
- maybe add a picture of the Kim Il-sung and Kim Jong-il badges the aftermath, the article is pretty sparse on images
- That's it, once all of those are addressed I think it's good go go! One final thought: I think you can use material from this to stub a number of relevant articles, even without further research. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:14, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome, Piotrus.

Done attributing the quotation.
Done. I'm happy to add a picture from Kim Il-sung and Kim Jong-il badges, which happens to be another one of my GAs.
North Korean politics is my primary editing interest, so I'll have plenty of chances to do this. Thank you for the encouragement! – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 15:00, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yours – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 15:00, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Great, passing :) Through I'd suggest replacing the single Britannica ref with non-tertiary source. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:04, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]