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King Tone vs. Antonio Fernandez[edit]

The title of the article is King Tone, which has been the name has been known for during his time with the Latin Kings. It seems most of the articles list both names (i.e., there's not a preponderance either way and far as I can tell). Based upon Deciding on a title - item about recognizability, people would clearly know who King Tone is, but not necessarily recognize Antonio Fernandez.

It's strange that King Tone is used as his article name, but his proper name has been used in the article (I switched references to him from Antonio to standard use of the surname, Fernandez).

Per Wikipedia:Article_titles#Use commonly recognizable names - some topics have multiple names, and this can lead to confusion about which name should be used in the article's title. Wikipedia generally prefers the name that is most commonly used (as determined by its prevalence in a significant majority of independent, reliable English-language sources) as such names will usually best fit the criteria listed above.[5] When there is no single, obvious name that is demonstrably the most frequently used for the topic by these sources, editors should reach a consensus as to which title is best by considering these criteria directly.

I don't know if anyone has an opinion about what the article title should be - or how his name should be reflect in the article, I thought I'd throw the question out there if anyone is looking.--CaroleHenson (talk) 04:09, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@CaroleHenson: Thanks for raising this discussion. Recognizability of a common name is just one of several criteria for article titles. The title should also be Natural, Precise, Concise, and Consistent with other articles. In this case, the subject person is best know by their pseudonym, King Tone, rather than their official legal name, Antonio Fernandez. While those guidelines determine the article title, there may be redirect pages from other titles that reflect other names the person is known by, such as Antonio Fernandez, and those alternative titles enable the article to be found by search engines under numerous different search terms. Nevertheless, the Manual of Style advice on biographical articles is that the legal name appears first, ahead of any pseudonyms. Subsequently referring to the article's subject by their surname, "Fernandez", throughout the article is entirely consistent with the Manual of Style, as it gives a consistent encyclopedic tone and style to biographical articles.

Lastly, also consider where to place the article in category lists. In general, articles are sorted according to their titles, unless the title includes a person's forename and surname, where that is the case articles are collated by the surname first. In this case the article title is a pseudonym, so it should be listed as "King Tone", not "Fernandez, Antonio", as this mirrors the article's title and sorting that way correctly collates the article in category listings. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 06:05, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]