Talk:Klomentum

This article was nominated for deletion on 13 February 2020. The result of the discussion was merge.

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this is just political puffery. i'm not biden my time waiting for WP to take it down, but it's a breyer patch of puffery. Drollere (talk) 16:21, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

01:37, 13 February 2020 (UTC)[edit]

I think we should merge this into Amy Klobuchar 2020 presidential campaign. This is basically a definition (of a buzzword), and Wikipedia is not a dictionary.—Naddruf (talk ~ contribs) 01:37, 13 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, but might go far to say that it should be straight out deleted. Buzzwords, unless they have some form of cultural impact shouldn't be here, especially a word that only entered the pundit lexicon a mere 5 days ago. C. Pineda (クリス) (talk) 01:53, 13 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is why it is a good idea to look at the article before joining a discussion; a December 2019 Politico article dates the word to the October 2019 candidates debate.IceFishing (talk) 03:14, 13 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You noticed I said pundit lexicon, and not existence? Reading comprehension is key. But seriously, if this is allowed to be an article, ee might as well make an article for Feel The Bern, which as of right now is what it should be, a redirect to the actual campaign page. C. Pineda (クリス) (talk) 04:27, 13 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Feel the Bern, lower case.IceFishing (talk) 11:10, 13 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for proving my case, as clicking on that redirects to the 2016 Sanders Campaign, as it should, because most slogans are not notable by themselves. C. Pineda (クリス) (talk) 21:18, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Pundits used it pretty freely in 2019: New York Times On Politics Lisa Lerer, 18 December 2019, writing about the Democratic candidate debate that would happen on Dec. 18: "Ms. Klobuchar is the one to watch most closely here: She’s been gaining steam in Iowa over the past month. Is this her last chance to make Klobmentum happen?" [1]. There was lots of stuff like this well before the last "5 days."IceFishing (talk) 11:00, 13 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I also think it should just be a mention in Klobuchar's campaign article, with redirects from the terms. It really isn't an encyclopedic topic, just one of those irritating cutesy things that media do to try to appear cool and relevant. (Doesn't help that it makes me think of fetch.) Schazjmd (talk) 15:26, 13 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Take a look at Category:Bernie Sanders 2016 presidential campaign, or Category:Donald Trump 2016 presidential campaign and you can see that this sort of article is normal. Hillary Clinton's campaign was a little less, ah..... noisy that the Bernie Bros or Trumpers, but even there you find Hookers for Hillary and Basket of deplorables. And we're exactly running short of paper.IceFishing (talk) 16:19, 13 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to merge this article into the Klobuchar's campaign article, you need to formally propose a merge. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 16:43, 13 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you look at similar pages, you see that many are kept, while those that are merged seem to have been merged after the campaign ended. It does not make a lot of sense to merge a page on a hot, current topic.IceFishing (talk) 16:54, 13 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not for deletion, I was just explaining the process. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 17:52, 13 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by Yoninah (talk) 21:41, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Amy Klobuchar

~~... that though Amy Klobuchar (pictured) finished in third-place, "Klomentum" became the headline story of the 2020 New Hampshire Democratic primary ?~~
- ALT1:... that Amy Klobuchar's (pictured) "Klomentum" overtook Bernie Sanders' first-place victory as the headline story of the 2020 New Hampshire Democratic primary?

Reviewed: Dua Saleh (17:09, 10 February 2020 (UTC)) and Super Lemon Haze (19:57, 13 February 2020 (UTC))

Created/expanded by IceFishing (talk). Nominated by Nice4What (talk) at 19:23, 13 February 2020 (UTC).[reply]

I believe it would be prudent to let the AfD run its course first. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 22:06, 13 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment "The headline story" seems like it's promoting Klobuchar. I think any DYK nomination from the page would be too promotional of her campaign.—Naddruf (talk ~ contribs) 00:57, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed; WP:DYKHOOK states that "Articles and hooks featuring election candidates up to 30 days before an election in which they are standing should be avoided, unless the hook is a "multi" that includes bolded links to new articles on all the main candidates." Given that a primary is a form of election, this is ineligible. Harrias ^talk 12:48, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Is there any way to speedily delete this template then? Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 12:54, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Nice4What: No, please don't do that. This will be archived instead as a failed nomination. However, by nominating this for speedy deletion (which isn't applicable anyway given that this has already been commented on), what you have done is marked the entire Template talk:Did you know page for speedy deletion because the speedy deletion template is also transcluded onto this page. I have reverted that. epicgenius (talk) 15:47, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Technically there is precidence for this in the case of Template:Did you know nominations/Peterborough recall petition, 2019 where it was created in Feburary but could not run until May (and it was held for that long) due to legal appeals and the election process. But having had a look at the AFD discussion, it looks pretty likely this will not remain a separate article so I won't be overriding the cross on this occasion. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 10:06, 15 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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We should have an official vote on whether this page should exist or not.

AllThatJazz2012 (talk) 15:52, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@AllThatJazz2012: That's what this is about. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 16:02, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

All comments so far are to merge into Amy Klobuchar 2020 presidential campaign; I'll go ahead and do that. – SJ + 06:06, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I second this motion. This topic, while significant to her campaign page, does not warrant a separate one of its own. TheGreatClockwyrm (talk) 17:33, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Sj: I would wait until the Articles for Deletion discussion concludes. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 13:22, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've merged what seemed appropriate but didn't make the redirect. – SJ + 15:28, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]