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Split of Aqueduct

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For those familiar how the Romans differentiated bridges verses water-courses, it would be useful to have some input regarding the multiple meanings of Aqueduct, particularly correct terminology: Aqueduct#Suggested split. —Sladen (talk) 15:44, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Steinerner Steg in Meran

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I'm from Merano and the bridge there called "Ponte Romano" ("Roman bridge") in Italian and called "Steinerner Steg" ("Stone bridge") in German was built in 1616 as a replacement for an earlier wooden bridge (see homepage of the city of Meran). The bridge has no connections whatsoever to a Roman bridge besides the name given to it in the twenties of last century by the fascist government in its attempt to connect the Imperium Romanum with the fascist empire and to prove that the old Austrian province of South Tyrol has always been part of Italy. Therefore the continued inclusion in the List of Roman bridges is factually wrong and elevates fascist propaganda into truth, which is even wronger. --noclador (talk) 17:44, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pavia

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According to the Blue Guide to Northern Italy, the Ponte Coperto across the Ticino in Pavia was built in 1351–54 on Roman foundations. (The roof wan’t added intil 1583.) It collapsed in 1947, having suffered war damage, and the current bridge was built a few metres to the East to a different design. Does that count as another Roman bridge for the list?

  • Macadam, Alta (1997), Blue Guide. Northern Italy: from the Alps to Bologna, London: A & C Black, p. 80, ISBN 0-7136-4294-7.

Ian Spackman (talk) 21:45, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that falls within our definition. Where Roman bridge foundations are, there was a Roman bridge, infallible logic ;-) Gun Powder Ma (talk) 21:31, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

'Mamluk' bridges

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All three bridges, while reconstructed in the course of time, comply to the definition of a Roman bridge as given by and adopted from O'Connor, the main source of this article. I have therefore reintroduced them.

The final bridge to be mentioned is the bridge of Jisr Jindas (E53; Gazzola, 1963b, no. 242) at Lydda or Lod, 35 km north west of Jerusalem. The present bridge dates from AD 1273, but is believed to be on Roman foundations.

The more southerly crossing was by the bridge of Jisr el Majami (E49; Gazzola, 1963b, no. 243), or, to quote Avi-Yonah (1977: 138-9), 'the Roman bridge at Gesher'. This high bridge is located 10 km south of the lake and had two spans, of about 15 and 18 m; parts of the central pier still remain.

To the north of the Sea of Galilee was another Roman bridge at Jisr Banat Ya'qub (ES0; Avi-Yonah, 1977: 186), or the bridge of Jacob's daughters. It lay on a direct Roman road from Damascus to Tiberias,

Gun Powder Ma (talk) 23:21, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I perfectly accept your judgement here. My main source is: Petersen, Andrew (2002): A Gazetteer of Buildings in Muslim Palestine: Volume I (British Academy Monographs in Archaeology) ...and Peterson does not mention the Roman foundations.
Btw: "Jisr Jindas" has its own catecory on commons, look at here. You might have seen my User:Huldra/Sources: it is my "to do" list, and the Mamluk bridges (especially Jisr Jindas) are high on that list. I will of course link here when..if(!) I get to start the articles, Regards, Huldra (talk) 23:37, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Year Built" column

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Its inclusion is certainly well-intended, but unfortunately this category is bound to never live up to expectations. The majority of ancient bridges lacks bridge inscriptions; their dating is insecure and often remains a matter of scholarly disagreement. Therefore, I think it is best to do without dates altogether, but relegate the discussions to the individual articles where there is enough space for a proper discussion.

I also removed the image and name section of the pontoon bridges, as these wooden boat bridges have long decayed, obviously, and have only survived in ancient references. Gun Powder Ma (talk) 01:19, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Caravan Bridge

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I removed it. It predates even the earliest Romans by at least 100 years. MartinezMD (talk) 13:50, 4 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pleiades uri for Roman bridges

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It would be great to integrate the uri information for Roman bridges listed by the Pleiades Project (pleiades.stoa.org) into this excellent list and thus create a linked data path. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Torquatus (talkcontribs) 03:41, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bridge at Prato all'Isarco

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Nominated for inclusion: the remains of the bridge at Blumau or Prato all'Isarco. As it is against Wikipedia rules to use myself as a source (here: http://macrotypography.blogspot.de/2013/07/bridge-at-blumau.html ), some other Wikipedianer will have to assess this and write an entry. --JB Piggin (talk) 10:19, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Acquedotto Domiziano, Rome

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When I searched in google map for Acquedotto Domiziano, Rome[1], I can see one which is located near Palace of Domitian or Colosseum. Should it be added to the article or is it part of what is there already ? - .@Photnart. (talk) 22:05, 20 October 2018 (UTC).[reply]

Syrian bridge?

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Roman bridge

Does anyone know which bridge this is? The picture is by Felix Bonfils, 100+ year ago, close by Souq Wadi Barada, Huldra (talk) 21:14, 26 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The source just says "Between it and the sea are the ruins of a Roman bridge over the water of the Wady Rubin, with high arches, built of very large stones." which is reporting on writings of Irby and Mangles. MartinezMD (talk) 22:41, 26 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Bridge to be added

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Hello! I'm finding the list quite confusing: I'm not sure what order determines bridges' listing, what dimensions the spans refer to, or how S/M/L are decided for height. As such, I leave in the capable hands of editors the notification that a masonry road bridge is missing: the Ponte di San Vito. Thanks! IgnatiusofLondon (talk) 23:35, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]