Talk:List of The Land Before Time characters

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Merge[edit]

I came across various Land Before Time articles and noticed some discussion on merging. The question seemed to be yes, but also where? So I've created this page, hopefully it'll expand some more as more characters get added. There seem to be about 2 people (who have chimed in on the pages) that disagree with the merge, and about 5 people (so far, when you include me) who have agreed that they should be merged. So, discuss. Radagast83 22:23, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Though I've come to believe that the main characters in the series are probably notable enough for inclusion in seperate articles, at least for the time being, though each article needs a lot of cleanup (much of what is found in the infoboxes is crufty at best).Radagast83 08:35, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
Merge the main characters? I think they are important enought to be kept. Bowser Junior Nutt.
Oppose all merges except Mr. Thicknose. He definitely shouldn't have his own page. --Ye Olde Luke (talk) 21:52, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
I agree, Mr. Thicknose should be merged. The others, however, should not. -Bowser Junior nutt

My Idea: I think that all of the main characters (Littlefoot, Cera, Ducky, Petrie, Spike, and now Chomper and Ruby) should have individual pages. To heightenize them a little more, we should merge in the sections in List of The Land Before Time family members discussing members of their family if they only include one or two lines on that or those family members. I've already merged Petrie's mom and siblings into his article per an agreement, and also left a link there. If a family member has enough information to fill a sizable paragraph (five - ten lines) or more, then a link to their part of the family article should be provided, and a brief passing of a description. Also, info on the main characters should be sparse, or all over the article. It should be more organized, and split into chapters and subchapters in their articles if possible. This has all been done as far as currently possible for Petrie, now I think I'll get working on Chomper next. Wilhelmina Will (talk) 07:26, 17 January 2008 (UTC) End of Comment

Places???[edit]

This article is about characters from The Land Before Time, why are places being put here? Kochdude388 21:21 16, November 2006 (UTC)

Merge 2[edit]

I think the TV info on certain characters should be put in. --Coallen 13:42, 18 May 2007 (UTC)


AfD and Merge Discussion 3[edit]

See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Littlefoot. « ₣ullMetal ₣alcon » 18:17, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Oppose. We've had this same discussion not one month ago, and it was decided then that the main character pages were not to be merged. The pages were thought to be important enough to be individual pages, and therefore not be shortened or merged. - —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.144.212.16 (talkcontribs) 16:50, 21 January 2008
Also Oppose. As I said earlier, I agree that the main characters are notable enough to be included. The Land Before Time franchise is a long-running thing, and is quite noticeably popular amongst children. There is also (admittedly limited) media surrounding some of these characters. The last two sections in Ducky's article, for instance, before the References and External Links sections, are pure real-world information. The second of these is about controversy regarding the character, and provides references to such sites as the online version of the book The Animated Films of Don Bluth, and a review from The Washington Post. I am also not done with the article, and am working hard on finding as much more real-world information on Ducky as I can.
If the consensus ultimately decides that the articles are to be merged, however, might I suggest that they are not merged into this article. Instead, I suggest that they make another list article called "List of main characters in The Land Before Time", or something to that extreme. Wilhelmina Will (talk) 03:48, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
They should be merged here. There is no reason to make another article, nor should minor characters be covered at all, only the major ones, so no need for the major qualifier which would only violate the film MOS and have one of the articles sent to AfD as a duplicate. AnmaFinotera (talk) 05:36, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Support. The AfD made it pretty clear, these needs to be done. No one has established the necessary notability in any of the character articles to satisfy WP:FICT after three months (which requires significant coverage in third-party reliable sources). Adding in more fan rumors and plot does not satisfy this requirement. Continuing to dig in the heels will only result in the articles being sent to the Fiction Noticeboard or back to AfD. AnmaFinotera (talk) 05:36, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Establishing notablity is exactly what I am trying to do. And nobody has added in any more fan rumours, and I am trying to make sure that the plot devices used are limited. At least in Ducky's article. Anyway, like I said, The Land Before Time is popular, so it's difficult to define what makes a non-notable minor or not. Wilhelmina Will (talk) 06:30, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Popularity does not determine notability, nor does how many films the series has. I personally think the best option would be to have each film article deal with its unique major characters in the plot and reduce this list to the major characters that actual appear in multiple films. That would be a start to reducing it. AnmaFinotera (talk) 06:44, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Or, we could just forget about the whole thing. It's only a few out of millions of articles, after all. The world of information is supposed to be neutral and mutual; Wikipedia does not have to be top-quality on everything. Wilhelmina Will (talk) 06:50, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, but that isn't an option. The goal of any good Wikipedia editor should always be in making good quality articles, not turning a blind eye to bad articles.AnmaFinotera (talk) 07:11, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Ah well, while in Wikipedia I try to be as good as possible, my personality is highly flawed in life. Mental state somewhat as well. Better be careful with me; I often get the wrong idea from what others say, and vice versa. Wilhelmina Will (talk) 07:51, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
I believe the five orignal characters are notable enough to merit their own articles, and possibly Chomper and Ruby, but Mr. Thicknose is not. His article should definitely be merged. --Ye Olde Luke (talk) 03:01, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Picture Caption[edit]

I think the caption should read like "from foreground to background" rather than "from left right", as the characters are standing in a near straight line. Thoughts please.Clawandfang (talk) 15:18, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm all up for it. Wilhelmina Will (talk) 21:21, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Neutrality in Hyp, Mutt and Nod's section.[edit]

This section does not seem to be very neutral; at least not in the part which discusses Nod. It seems whoever wrote that information has something against the character, as what they have written is very, well, unflattering, let's just say. I'm not sure how to rewrite it so it sounds more neutral, but I have placed a beacon in the section so it may be noticed by someone who can rewrite it. Mess around with the guy in shades all you like - don't mess around with the girl in gloves! (talk) 01:01, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:TheLandBeforeTimeScreen.jpg[edit]

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Putting images on Wikipedia is fair use. 24.65.118.20 (talk) 01:58, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Rinkus and Sierra[edit]

Rinkus and Sierra were on here before! Who removed them and why? Can someone please put them back up? They're those two flyers from the Land Before Time VII: The Stone of Cold Fire. And they definitely fit under the Villains category. If Rooter, Ichy, and Dill have a spot here, Rinkus and Sierra definitely do. I'd do it myself but I'm not good at editing, every time I do they consider it either describing a view of something that happened or else original research, and undo it. 24.65.118.20 (talk) 01:58, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Good, it's back on. And I should point out that User 122.53.6.158 is the culprit. He deleted Rinkus and Sierra, Tria, and the References. And those were the only things he ever did. I know because of the page history. VANDALISM! 24.65.118.20 (talk) 21:38, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Removal of fair use images[edit]

An editor removed all the valid fair use images in this article. If possible I'd like to see some sort of justification as why this should happen and why all of them should be removed as opposed to a limited number of them. The pictures are not of living people so they should be allowed to be used on articles like this as far as I am aware. I don't dabble much in the living people/bio categories in wikipedia so I could very well be wrong. I've reverted the edit until

a)Someone makes a valid argument for them being removed
b)I find a policy stating such. I'll read up on the policy's over the next wee while but I've got shed loads of exams starting soon so will probably not have the time for a few weeks.

Cabe6403 (TalkSign!) 00:43, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

  • Also, this page is far beyond the page length limit at 65k so should be considered being split into separate articles --Cabe6403 (TalkSign!) 00:45, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
The relevant portion of policy is here. Specifically, images that are used only to visually identify elements in the article should be used as sparingly as possible is the key consideration here. A group image involving several of the characters would be okay; several individual images for several characters is usually construed as violating WP:NFCC #3a, that non-free content usage must be minimal across Wikipedia. (ESkog)(Talk) 01:38, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
So the image that shows Sharptooth & Littlefoots mother is ok since it contains multiple characters? In that case, should the rest of the images be removed with that one remaining and a request posted on the talk page for a group image? Cabe6403 (TalkSign!) 03:09, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
It would be better if you could find one or two images which contain the most important characters - I don't think those two characters are really the most important in the series, but I admit that my familiarity with this subject matter is pretty limited. (ESkog)(Talk) 03:12, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
If you would like my opinion, find an image which has Littlefoot, Cera, Ducky, Petrie, Spike, Chomper and Ruby altogether in it; if there are any other characters in that same image, they can be a bonus. But the main characters of both the film and the television series are all notable enough for illustration. Mess around with the guy in shades all you like - don't mess around with the girl in gloves! (talk) 03:29, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

February 2009.[edit]

I added a second rationale to the screenshot of the gang looking out at the Great Valley, used in Sullivan Bluth Studios, so it could be used in this article again. This still only covers five of the characters, but it greatly reduces the amount of fair use image usage on this page. I also chucked away the Mo image, as Mo is a minor character. With only two screenshots left on this page, each of reasonable worth, I think it's safe now to remove the image tag at the top of the page. Mess around with the guy in shades all you like - don't mess around with the girl in gloves! (talk) 03:41, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Correction, there are three. I am stumped as to whether or not the fight scene between Mama Longneck and the Sharptooth is worthwhile having here or not. Mess around with the guy in shades all you like - don't mess around with the girl in gloves! (talk) 03:43, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Cleanup in "Main Protagonists".[edit]

I have cleaned the section talking about the main characters, by removing excessive trivia and cutting down on the references to instances in particular films and episodes. Anyone interested in expanding that part of the page in a less fansite-ish and more encyclopedic way is welcome to do so, as far as I'm concerned. Mess around with the guy in shades all you like - don't mess around with the girl in gloves! (talk) 22:54, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
I have now helped the article to lose even more pounds of body fat. The way things seem to be going, the article will be considerably lighter and smaller when I am finished, but it will also be cleaner, and ready for some muscle-building. It's a shame that there are even more overweight Wikipedia articles than there are people, but this will soon be one less. Mess around with the guy in shades all you like - don't mess around with the girl in gloves! (talk) 03:09, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Eusthenopteron[edit]

Eusthenopteron was from The Land Before Time VIII: The Big Freeze when the Camptosaurus was swimming. User:98.177.220.111 (Just called me Burgess Shale Lover) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.177.220.111 (talk) 04:50, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Missing taxons[edit]

Has anyone else but me noticed that there aren't any Megalosaurs, Ceratosaurs, Abelisaurs or Alvarezsaurs? I'm kind of disappointed but hopeful that at least one genus of one of the taxons will appear in the upcoming movie or so. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.186.22.193 (talk) 17:26, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Has anyone else but me noticed that the dinosaurs in this film talk?
It's a cartoon. If you are expecting a representative sampling of various taxons from a particular era, you are watching the wrong film. - SummerPhDv2.0 13:21, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

Adding Etta[edit]

She needs to be added to the list. And add Reba McEntire as her voice actress and singer of the song Look for the light. Mr.Moore362 (talk) 14:24, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Adding Wild Arms[edit]

While asking for Etta to be added to the list, I also want to add Wild Arms to the list as well. Mr.Moore362 (talk) 14:30, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

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Apatosaurus vs. Brontosaurus[edit]

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