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Lung, not breathing[edit]

The primary topic of this article is lung, NOT breathing

Details about the mechanism for breathing should be placed on the breathing article. It is sufficient here to say that muscles, particularly the diaphragm, are involved in breathing. Here, we use WP:HATNOTEs to link to the main article. The reason we do this is otherwise every article ends up being a huge mess, where every topic related to said article is covered.

If we did this here, we would have a sprawling article covering in extensive detail the chest, anatomy, all the details related to lung cancer, pneumonia, etc. This is clearly impractical as it means readers have difficulty focusing on the actual topic of the article. We have other articles which cover these topics.

@Cruithne9 I will continue to remove any extraneous content that you place on this article relating to breathing if it is not directly related to the lung. "Bucket handle" relates to rib movements during breathing. Breathing involves the lung. This is not directly related. Iztwoz has already mentioned these concerns to you. --Tom (LT) (talk) 11:01, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

 Done Cruithne9 (talk) 19:50, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

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Footnote heading[edit]

why is there an empty heading "Foot note" before "See also" section? can´t see this in other organ pages. OK to delete? Figgep (talk) 13:30, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Requested move 2 May 2018[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 20:48, 8 May 2018 (UTC)



LungLungs – When we talk about lungs, we usually talk about them as a pair so I believe this article should be moved. 2601:183:101:58D0:B807:3EC7:4CDA:F10D (talk) 20:28, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

  • Oppose per WP:SINGULAR. Article titles should use the singular form. Rreagan007 (talk) 21:52, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose per Rreagan007 and Hand, Arm, Knee, etc. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:26, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Support per common sense and provisions at WP:PLURAL, specifically, Articles on items such as scissors or handcuffs are not located at awkward, unnatural titles like scissor or handcuff. or one is much more likely to mention the Bernoulli numbers or Arabic numerals than a particular Bernoulli number or Arabic numeral. While I grant that a "lung" is a thing (unlike a "scissor"), it is so rarely used in singular (unlike "arm", "hand" or "knee") that the singular title comes across as awkward. Besides, the two lungs are not completely identical (The right lung has both more lobes and segments than the left.) and the article treats them as a group/system of entities, not as indivisible units. No such user (talk) 11:28, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
    • Rarely used as singular? I can think of plenty of examples off the top of my head: "Lung transplant", "Cough up a lung", "Lung disease", "Lung cancer", "Smoker's lung", "Collapsed lung". Rreagan007 (talk) 06:01, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose
    1. "Article titles are generally singular in form, e.g. Horse, not Horses. Exceptions include nouns that are always in a plural form in English " (from WP:SINGULAR) we do not "always" refer to the left and right lung together
    2. The lungs are not uncommonly used in singular - eg the left lung sits on top of the heart, the right lung is larger than the left, person X was shot in the right lung, cancer of the left lung, etc etc.
    3. So appropriate place to raise this type of move query is the manual of style - our local consensus can't override the broader consensus there. --Tom (LT) (talk) 00:41, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
    @Tom (LT): I beg to differ: WP:PLURAL expressly permits exceptions based on local consensus: In rare circumstances, we ignore the rules here in order to make the encyclopedia better. while complementary WP:SINGULAR disclaims that Article titles are generally singular. This article is not about a single lung but about a dual organ commonly referred to as lungs. While you may reasonably disagree that the exception shouldn't apply, you should not base your reasoning solely on adherence to rules. No such user (talk) 05:36, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose, it’s not uncommon to talk about a single lung. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 05:22, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

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