Jump to content

Talk:Mahmud Ahmed

Page contents not supported in other languages.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Untitled

[edit]

I have re submitted the tesxt deleted by anon post as there was no justification or reasoning given for its deletion - Che

$100,000 to Al Qaeda?

[edit]

The fact that Ahmed (and thus, the ISI) probably financed the 9-11 attacks isn't considered worth mentioning? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.247.85.103 (talk) 02:15, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why would someone killing themselves the next day need $100,000? --Anthonysenn (talk) 04:57, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Here is the referenced text deleted by 65.39.12.159. No reason was given.

On October 9, 2001, The Times of India that "US authorities sought his removal after confirming the fact that $100,000 were wired to WTC hijacker Mohammed Atta from Pakistan by Ahmad Umar Sheikh at the instance of Gen. Mahmud.[1] Pakistan's Dawn newspaper picked up the story and reported that Ahmed had "been replaced after the FBI investigators established credible links between him and Umar Sheikh".[2] Agence France-Presse also followed up on the story, reporting that "A highly-placed government source told AFP that the 'damning link' between the general and the transfer of funds to Atta was part of evidence which India has officially sent to the US."[3] The only reference to it in the US media was in James Taranto's blog on the Wall Street Journal's "Opinion Journal" website, who cited the Times of India report in an entry entitled "Our Friends the Pakistanis".[4]

The 9/11 Commission Report made no mention of the allegation and stated that the question of who financed the terrorist attacks was "of little practical significance" and that it had "seen no evidence that any foreign government--or foreign government official--supplied any funding."[5] Saktoth (talk) 22:42, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "India helped FBI trace ISI-terrorist links", The Times of India, October 9,2001 [1]
  2. ^ "Gen Mahmud's exit due to links with Umar Sheikh", Dawn, October 9, 2001
  3. ^ "India Accuses Ex Pakistan Spy Chief Of Links to US Attacker: Report", Agence France-Presse, October 10, 2001
  4. ^ James Taranto, "Our Friends the Pakistanis", Opinion Journal, October 10, 2001 [2]
  5. ^ 9/11 Commission Report, p. 172

referencing

[edit]

General Mahmud was known to visit the United States regularly during his time as the head of ISI consulting senior officials in the U.S. administration in the weeks before and after 9/11. In fact, he was with Republican Congressman Porter Goss and Democratic Senator Bob Graham in Washington, discussing Osama bin Laden over breakfast, when the attacks of September 11, 2001 happened. He was immediately called into meetings with American officials where demands of Pakistani cooperation were made and he was told to convey this to the Pakistani government.

On October 9, 2001, The Times of India reported that "US authorities sought his removal after confirming the fact that $100,000 were wired to WTC hijacker Mohammed Atta from Pakistan by Ahmad Umar Sheikh at the instance of Gen. Mahmud. Pakistan's Dawn newspaper picked up the story and reported that Ahmed had "been replaced after the FBI investigators established credible links between him and Umar Sheikh" Agence France-Presse also followed up on the story, reporting that "A highly-placed government source told AFP that the 'damning link' between the general and the transfer of funds to Atta was part of evidence which India has officially sent to the US." The only reference to it in the US media was in James Taranto's blog on the Wall Street Journal's "Opinion Journal" website, who cited the Times of India report in an entry entitled "Our Friends the Pakistanis".

The 9/11 Commission Report made no mention of the allegation and stated that the question of who financed the terrorist attacks was "of little practical significance" and that it had "seen no evidence that any foreign government--or foreign government official--supplied any funding.

General Mahmud Ahmed opposed the US invasion of Afghanistan.[citation needed] He was retired from his role in the ISI on 8 October 2001, just prior to the US invasion of Afghanistan. He was replaced by Lieutenant General Ehsan ul Haq as the Director General ISI.

He is now a member of Tablighi Jamaat and preaching the teaching of Islam.

On a serious note, I'm trying to research this accusation of him being involved in such a meeting, yet this entire section has no referencing! Can some please reference these claims (not with tabloids). Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.145.46.63 (talk) 18:29, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Times of India & Removal

[edit]

The reference website to the removal of Mahmud on the evidence provided by India to the FBI, contains no official statement from the FBI or the US Government (in the link provided). The website says " top sources confirmed here on tuesday" (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/India-helped-FBI-trace-ISI-terrorist-links/articleshow/1454238160.cms?referral=PM). This is obviously an Indian trolling to vandalize former Pakistani officer. The headline also demonstrates typical anti-Pakistan Indian narrative. Please remove this... (ManFromMohenjodaro (talk) 04:10, 14 October 2016 (UTC))[reply]

[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 2 external links on Mahmud Ahmed. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

  • If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
  • If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 02:04, 30 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mahmud_Ahmed&oldid=1204616430"