Talk:Man on the Clapham omnibus

Bondi tram

I am guessing here, but I would assume that most Australians, noted worldwide for their racy English, would say "The man on the Bondi Tram" not "A hypothetical person on a hypothetical Bondi Tram"? That may be how the court put it but not how it would be in daily use? Just a guess.

Also as a minor point, "Person" may be acceptable here if genuine, but if it was "man" then it should say so. It was definitely for example a man on the Clapham omnnibus, not a woman, or a person. SimonTrew (talk) 03:46, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

"The man on the Prospector (train) to Kalgoorlie" is inappropriate as an equivalent term - not just because of lack of citation or its disputable currency. Kalgoorlie has a very specific identity within Western Australia as an ongoing frontier/mining town (with attendant breaks in enforcement of sex work laws), rather distinct from the identity of Clapham as an ordinary commuter suburb representing ordinary people - it would be the equivalent of saying "the single man (commuting) on the flight to Las Vegas". The sentence should be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wellwaitawhile (talk • contribs) 08:19, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

I found nothing with hypothetical in a google search in books or scholars. It might be in the original reference given but I've reverted back to man and given a reference that is at least findable in google books. --Erp (talk) 01:17, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

While we're at it, I wonder if it is worth adding links to everyman, maybe vox populi and (in the Bondi article, which has no talk so not going to bother starting it there) remove or qualify the 380 bus being "also notorious for overcrowding" (there is no mention that the tram was) and it is not anachronistic but archaic-- an anachronism means a word or action set or used in a time before it existed, not vice versa (digital watch in Ben Hur etc). SimonTrew (talk) 02:19, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Over the weekend I canvassed some of my Oz friends none had heard of the hypothetical person on a hypothetical Bondi tram. All had heard of a man on a Bondi tram. I know this is unscentific, perhaps OR, and not citeable (it is hard to prove a negative) but leads me to agree that there is no such thing as the hypotheticak etc etc SimonTrew (talk) 08:08, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

When I was studying law at UTS ten years ago, it wasn't the man on the Bondi tram, but "the man on the train to Richmond". I assume that meant Richmond-bound in Sydney, not the inner-city Melbourne suburb. Whophd (talk) 11:24, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Eloquent

Is "Eloquent" in the article NPOV? I might find it a completely dull and overblown judgment. I could see a word like "important" or "leading" or something, but this seems rather subjective. SimonTrew (talk) 01:59, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

D. Kelly Weisberg's work

I propose to delete the paragraph "The term was used once by D. Kelly Weisberg in her work Feminist Legal Theory: Foundations". The term is used millions of times by millions of people all the time. I don't think a reference to this person's book is merited (perhaps it's just an attempt at self publicity?) 86.176.29.232 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:35, 13 September 2010 (UTC).

Short citations

I propose to reformat the citations so that they take the form of short citations for two reasons. It will make the text easier to read when editing it and it will allow different pages from the same citation to be cited more easily and clearly. -- PBS (talk) 08:27, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Y Done. -- PBS (talk) 12:52, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Named bus stop

Where should a link to [https://tfl.gov.uk/bus/stop/490000288Z/omnibus-clapham/] be put? Jackiespeel (talk) 11:08, 16 September 2022 (UTC)