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Hello, Erp, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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Just sortof happened (I started at Charles Darwin originally and just worked my way round. — Dunc| 09:24, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Too many peases[edit]

I'm trying to sort out various items called Pease (have created a Pease (disambiguation) page). But have a concern: There seems to be two articles on the same or similar subjects Pease pudding and Pease Porridge Hot. Not sure how to handle that.--Erp 02:07, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

I don't see the conflict... On the disambiguation page, just put on one line "Pease pudding, a
sort of Pease pudding,< /br > Pease Porridge Hot, a modified version of the Pease pudding." I actually have no idea what either are, I'll read both articles later and see if there's any problem I can see for myself. GofG ||| Contribs 02:25, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
the main problem is that both refer to the nursery rhyme but with two different forms of the rhyme and I don't think any cross reference. Pease Pudding and Pease Porridge might or might not be different dishes (regional dialects?). I think one article is needed for the nursery rhyme and one for the culinary dish(es) with cross references. Would that be ok? --Erp 02:37, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
I don't see why not. Sounds good actually. GofG ||| Contribs 03:05, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
Many thanks for the help. I've now put things in, I think, an appropriate order. --Erp 04:35, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Fry Family[edit]

I'm glad you managed to get a bit of a hold on the Fry's Chocolate Lords :) After I made my comment about the Chocolate article, I poked around for a while and couldn't find any decent sources.Paul Drye

I've added a brief biog of Joan Mary Fry === Vernon White (talk) 10:45, 28 December 2006 (UTC)


You may want to chime in at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Scouting#Spiral_Scouts, or if you prefer, leave a msg on my talk page. At first I was opposed, but then realized I was just unknoweledgeable about your Spiral Scouts International organization, which you should be able to deduce from the talk. Please provide your side of the story. Rlevse 23:40, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. You make some good comments. I'd only point out there are some youth groups that definitely don't fall under Scouting, most of them were/are in countries ruled by strong dictators, see like Falcons, Hitler Youth, and Young Pioneers.Rlevse 02:55, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
  • See the article and project talk. Rlevse 11:45, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Scouting Lists in GSUSA[edit]

Can you help prosify the lists in GSUSA? I tried, but I struggle. Darthgriz98 02:41, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Hey way to go on finding that info and helping with the lists! Where did you find it, a book? Darthgriz98 22:42, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
Careful googling. Got much of the info on roundups off a stamp collecting web site. I've heard but could not confirm that the national roundups ended when the Military pulled support from them (military support continued for the BSA jamborees). --Erp 23:54, 5 September 2006 (UTC)


Hi Erp. I see you are a regular contributor to Scouting articles, especially Girl Scout related ones. We need more people knowledgeable in that area. Please formally join the Scouting project at: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Scouting#Participants_and_primary_areas_of_interest. Rlevse 01:41, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

For someone who never joined the project, you sure are active in it lately--;) grin. Glad you are participating. It still think it's one method, no matter what you call it and focusing on splitting hairs merely perpetuates division. We should focus on unity, not splitting the movement apart more than it is. All colors of a rose are still a rose. Rlevse 22:58, 2 December 2006 (UTC)


You were a scout? Darthgriz98 19:21, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Yup, Brownies through Seniors back in the 70's. Even did some caving out in Pennsylvania which I believe is your homestate. --Erp 01:12, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
Ha good old PA, by the way, can you turn the program aims into prose? I'm not quite sure how to word them. After that, I think it might be ready to submit for GA. Darthgriz98 14:42, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
prosified and gave reference. I cut a lot of the text since I couldn't find the source.--Erp 19:22, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Alfred Fox[edit]

Thanks for tidying up the children of Alfred and Sarah (born Lloyd) Fox. I must try to acquire a more organised editing method.

I see that you are interested in the Pease and Fry families. Do you have a particular interest in Quaker bankers and industrialist?

=== Vernon White (talk) 08:10, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm distantly related to both families (very distantly in the case of the Darlington Peases and I'm not 100% sure of the Fry connection). Not knowingly related to the Fox family but I visited Glendurgan earlier this year and noted their connection to the Darlington Peases. What is your interest?--Erp 21:40, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
I am interested in 19th C Quakers and recently moved to Cornwall, near Glendurgan, Trebah and Penjerrick Garden. I love Barclay and Caroline Fox's journals. I am a member of the Royal Cornwall Polytechnic Society. BTW, Alfred's brother, Charles' daughter, Juliet and Alfred's brother Robert's son, Barclay, both married into the Darlington Backhouse family. I expect you are distantly related to them too.
Best === Vernon White (talk) 22:05, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
I think most of the Quaker families of the time in England were related by blood or marriage since the Society of Friends up until the late 19th century tended to disapprove of marrying out; though I don't know of any blood connection to the Backhouse family (or the Fox family). So know anything about Friends Provident? Falmouth region is a lovely area, my grandmother use to spend her vacations as a child near Helford and Manaccan starting in the 1920s and continued family vacations even when she married and had children and grandchildren. --Erp 00:21, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Friends Provident[edit]

Do I know anything? Not much.

First line

"Friends Provident plc (LSE: FP.) manages a life assurance business in the United Kingdom"

seems to miss the huge asset-management wings of the company. The distinctive "ethical" flavour of the firm should be in the first para too.

There was a lot of correspondence in The Friend at the time of demutualisation but customers who are Fds must be a very tiny part of the business. I hear there's a bar in the staff club at the Dorking Offices, which probably means the management were a long way away from their Nineteenth Century Quaker Founders by the time the place was built (? in the 1960s). I'm reading Elizabeth Isichei's Victorian Quakers at present and will find out about this background.

BTW the Backhouses intermarried with the Peases and the Director of Barclays who bankrupted several Peases in 1904 was Sir Jonathan Edmund Backhouse, 1st Baronet, (November 15, 1849 - July 27, 1918). === Vernon White (talk) 22:32, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

The first non-Quaker general manager of Friends Provident, Henry John Tapscott, took over in 1916; however, he was married to a Friend and was involved in various Friendlike activities such as the anti-slavery movement. He did move Friends Provident to London, but, I suspect the bar showed up post his term. I don't know much beyond that myself--Erp 23:19, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Religion in Scouting[edit]

Had "Judeo-Christian" for AHG, since that is how they self-identify. No big deal. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 03:14, 6 December 2006 (UTC).

They may self-identify as such but they are explicitly Christian (they probably are thinking of groups like Jews for Jesus to justify the Judeo). Admittedly Judeo-Christian is often used when Christian would be the more appropriate word--Erp 01:18, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Children of Edward Fry[edit]

Yes, Margery Fry is very interesting person. She has an ODNB article. Do you have access to ODNB? Some of the sisters lived with or near Roger Fry in Guildford and helped with Roger's children, I believe. Best === Vernon White (talk) 11:19, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes I have access to the ODNB as well as a bio about her. --Erp 02:38, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Edward R. Pease in Limpsfield[edit]

Here's the correspondence: To: Enquiries Direct Libraries/CSC/SCC@SCC Date: 02/01/2007 08:39PM Subject: Ask Us (ref : EF700024162) NAME: Vernon White EMAIL: vernonwhite39 at

QUESTION: *Pease, Edward Reynolds (1857?1955), secretary of the Fabian Society and Limpsfield, Surrey* Edward R. Pease and his wife, Mary moved to Lipsfield in 1889. In 1916, Pease was living at Pendicle, Limpsfield. He died at that address on 5 January 1955.

Where was Pendicle? When did Limpsfield or Limpsfield Chart acquire the name "Dostoevsky Corner" due to Fabian settlers such as the Peases and the Garnetts (who lived at The Cearne on the Chart) sympathy with Russian Refugees, some of whom they accommodated?


Original Message ----

From: Enquiries Direct Libraries <>

Sent: Wednesday, 3 January, 2007 12:14:54 PM Subject: Re: Edward Pease, Pendicle, Dostoevsky corner (ref : EF700024162)

Hello Vernon,

Happy New Year to you and yours!

According to the book "Limpsfield Ancient & Modern" 1997, edited by Peter Gray, ISBN: 0953056902 p78, 'the Limpsfield Land Club met monthly, usually in The Pendicle, (now Walney) the Pease's home in Pastens Road.' A fuller account from that page is attached. To answer your second question, when did Limpsfield....? I'm afraid I haven't found a date but I have found a reference to the Pease's home, The Pendicle, becoming known as Dostoevsky Corner because:- With his wife Marjory, Edward Pease established the East Surrey Labour Party and both of them served on the local council. Their home at Limpsfield became known as Dostoevsky Corner, because he housed so many Russian refugees who had been forced to leave their country because of their socialist beliefs. This came from the following website which was the only hit from a google search (keywords:- dostoevsky corner limpsfield)

Finally, just as extra information that may not be relevant: in the book "Oxted, Limpsfield and Neighbourhood" pub 1932. Edited by Lewis G. Fry (item number 03166166 at RD - 13 in Surrey Libraries, 7 loan) there are a couple of chapters written by EDW. R. PEASE: 1) Village Records and 2) The Commons

I hope all the above helps to further your research.

best wishes

Information Services Team Enquiries Direct Surrey Libraries' On-Line Information Service "Finding information for you..."

tel: 01483 543599 fax: 01483 543597 email:


Vernon's response - 5 Jan 2007 ___________________________

Oh yes, I see "Walney" on the South side of Pastens Road on the Surrey Interactive Map
There were a number of other leftish intellectuals living in the area in th 1890s, including Constance Garnett, Sydney Olivier and J.A. Hobson (all with ODNB articles).

Best for the new year

END ___ ===Vernon White (talk) 05:03, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

So it looks like it is between Limpsfield proper and Limpsfield Chart; I think we should stick with Limpsfield for where Edward Pease lived. BTW I wouldn't trust Spartacus for reliability. Thanks for hunting up this info.--Erp 01:39, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
I've added the address. Looks like the original drafter of the article used the Spartacus website as a source. The wholething could do with more references. Shall I make a start? Best === Vernon White (talk) 09:42, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Marianne Elser Crowder[edit]

If you can find enough good information, I think we would have the workings of a nice notable article~ :) Chris 05:01, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

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Hi, I've nominated an article you worked on, Anne Hyde Choate, for consideration to appear on the Main Page as part of Wikipedia:Did you know. You can see the "hook" for the article at Template talk:Did you know#Articles created on April 21 where you can improve it if you see fit. Rlevse 10:56, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

I've modified it slightly. She seems to have been an interesting character whose family had long and powerful roots in New York (her birthplace, Hyde Hall, is a National Historic landmark though not because she was born there, her ancestor George Clarke had been a colonial governor). I'm not even sure how to put in the article the bits about her being a friend of Eleanor Roosevelt and Francis Perkins. Unfortunately the sources didn't go into much about her work in Our Chalet.--Erp 19:35, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

This made DYK! There is also a ritzy private school in the northeast called Choate, probably connected to her somehow. Rlevse 09:55, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations on the DYK! Kingbird 14:39, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Many thanks. Yes the school was apparently founded by her husband's uncle. In addition the house she was born, Hyde Hall near Cooperstown, NY, is on the National Historic register. It was built by one of her ancestors who had to take a case to the Supreme Court to have his land in New York (he was English and had inherited the land from a loyalist ancestor post the revolution)[1]. She came from and married into old money.--Erp 00:23, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations indeed! Chris 23:18, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

thank you[edit]

I just want to thank you for your great contributions to the GS info on the state articles. It was sorely lacking, and I want to balance the articles, but there simply is not as much available out there as there is on BSA (yes, I know, us guys talk more). I love the maps you contribute! I hope that you can later expand information on the world GG/GS articles, many are just stubs, or remain as subsections of national Scouting articles. When I made most of them, there was not a GG/GS task force, so my thoughts were to keep like country with like country. I did not mean it as any sort of systemic bias, here again, just there's more available through WOSM then WAGGGS, but you find great stuff! Thanks, and keep up the good work! Chris 04:56, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Scouting Barnstar[edit]

The Scouting Barnstar

-for longterm continued support for and improvement of Girl Guide/Girl Scout related articles. Rlevse 10:04, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Many thanks and sorry for the delay. --Erp 21:05, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Does not display[edit]

The image Image:GirlScoutsatNASA.jpg you uploaded does not display in IE or FF. I tried reuploading it but it didn't work. I've asked BigDT, our image expert, if he knows what's wrong. I've not seen this problem before. Rlevse 03:17, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Here it is

--evrik (talk) 19:43, 17 January 2013 (UTC)


Thanks for adding an ASSU section to the Stanford page! Samois98 08:38, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Fry family (chocolate)[edit]

An article that you have been involved in editing, Fry family (chocolate), has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fry family (chocolate). Thank you. Burzmali 13:38, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Pease Partners Bank[edit]

On Talk:Pease family (Darlington), I wrote: Does Pease Partners Bank deserve a separate entry? Vernon White . . . Talk 15:59, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

You replied: As it is long defunct and nothing seems to link to it or is likely to in the near future, I don't think so. --Erp (talk) 01:07, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
I replied further: Perhaps a general article on Quaker-run provincial banks an their eventual fate of being swallowed by Barclay or Lloyds or going bust. I got the impression somewhere tha the Pease Bank was more like a merchant bank for North East enterprises and its demise hurt the region badly. How did it collapse? Was Sir Jonathan Backhouse, 1st Baronet the villain of the piece, as I read somewhere. At the moment, I am working on Category:Members of Parliament for constituencies in Cornwall, which is fairly extensive . . . so maybe sometime. BTW have you seen a copy of Milligan's Biographical dictionary of British Quakers in commerce and industry? Vernon White . . . Talk 08:53, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your reply on the Pease talk page. I'll see if I can scan the Brooks and Pease pages of Ted Milligan's Dictionary. Perhaps a first stage to an article might be to extend Category:History_of_banking with a category "Quaker family banks". The History of banking doesn't even mention the Overend & Gurney crash. Best Vernon White . . . Talk 08:51, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Scouting in Hawaii[edit]

Thank you so much for the great info! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 01:06, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Well I have a bit of free time. --Erp (talk) 00:05, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Also thanks for the cool maps! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 02:08, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Trying to get image ratio right[edit]



I'm working with a SVG image which seems to insist on a 1 to 1 ratio for width to height even though the actual size of the image is 296.67w x 209.90h (clicking through to the image alone gets the ratio right). I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. Other SVG files I've worked with don't have the same problem (admittedly this is the first time I've worked with modifying a file from the Libre project). Many thanks --Erp (talk) 20:52, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks, problem solved--Erp (talk) 21:17, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Stanford Memorial Church[edit]

Erp, thanks for your edits to this article. The sources you found were great! I've worked a great deal on this article, bringing it up to GA, which is pretty good for an article that was once nominated for deletion. In the GAC process, someone said that with some expansion, this article has the potential to be a FA. The problem is, though, I feel that we had exhausted the available sources, and there was simply nothing more to be added. The articles you found go against that thinking, especially the Sandstone and Tile article, which has info for other parts of the article as well. Way to go!

Hope you don't mind that based upon your edits, I made some changes. I think that the new "Past deans" section could be expanded further and that there may be some further slight improvements to the refs. It's late now, and I'm goin' to bed, so it'll have to wait until tomorrow, perhaps. Please remember that when you add new refs, to make sure that it parallels the style currently used. They're a real stickler for that kind of thing in FAC-land. Anyway, thanks again, especially for re-motivating me to work further on this article and improve it even more. --Figureskatingfan (talk) 07:22, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Erp, I had a half-day off, so I spent it further improving this article based upon all your sources. I created "Influence" in the "History" section. What's your opinion: do you think the content fit in that section? I figured that it did, since it talks about how the church affected the university, specifically its religious studies department. I also expanded the "Past deans" section. I think that this article is now expanded enough that it could go through a FAC. Scartol, who has helped me with another article (I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings), and has kinda become my WP-mentor, may be able to help if I ask. It could use some additional eyes and a copyedit before we go further with it. Thanks for your help; there's no way we'd even think of going further without it. --Figureskatingfan (talk) 21:29, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

More MemChu[edit]

Hey Erp, saw your additions to the past deans list. I noticed two issues that I wasn't able to resolve by my google-searches.

  • Heber Newton. The ref for the line you added goes to the front section of the website, and not to an article about Newton. Plus, I'm not sure this will fly during the FAC process, since you have to register to access the website. I wasn't able to find anything supporting your edit, so we may need to remove it. References on WP need to be easily accessible, and having to register (or in some cases, pay) to enter a site doesn't make it so.
  • I wasn't so sure about the Ambrogi article, but on further looks, I think it's fine. We may need to justify at FAC-time. I copyedited the entry a bit.

I suggest that you read WP:V and WP:RS. You're doing better on the citation format, but choosing your sources is probably more important. Keep up the good work! --Figureskatingfan (talk) 18:15, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Scouting barnstar[edit]

The Scouting Barnstar

-For excellent support of the ScoutingWikiProject by great contributions in the area of Girl Scouting, including maps. RlevseTalk 11:11, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Huxley family[edit]

Thank you for taking an interest in this page. I had been looking for someone who might understand the software for redoing the tree, and it seems you might be the one! What you are suggesting, I think, is that we must keep the tree to a reasonable size. I offer these thoughts:

1. From the existing tree, leave out the first generation (George Huxley is a complete nonentity; and Arnolds should start with Julia, or maybe Tom).

2. Leave out Sir LGH Huxley: too distant.

3. Include otherwise all named as sub-heads in the article (plus siblings?? - selectively, perhaps); include Collier, who is so important to the article, and his children and grandchildren; include all THH grandchildren.

4. Do we go further than that?

When there's consensus between us, we can post a summary on the talk page. You would have to be the one doing the work, since I'm ignorant of the software. So, what do you think? Macdonald-ross (talk) 10:45, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Well the software may be a bit tricky. Note I would only include significant people or those connecting significant people and perhaps not include the Arnolds except for Julia as you suggest (maybe a separate Arnold family tree in an Arnold article and cross-reference the two). Personally I think a fair number of the people listed in the Huxley family article are not important enough for Wikipedia (e.g., Rachel Huxley and her children) and should not be included (perhaps a mention of Rachel as a daughter in the article but not the tree and not her children anywhere). I'll take a look at what I can do. Note by cutting down on insignificant people we might be able to get Crispin Tickell in. People looking at the tree (other than family) want to know how the significant people connect. --Erp (talk) 01:00, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
I've put up a family tree sandbox for playing around with the trees. One very rough initial sample up; feel free to comment there.--Erp (talk) 19:56, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Clapham Omnibus[edit]

Nice work!

On the talk page I have a grumble about Bondi. The link itself is to "The man on the Bondi Tram", the "theoretical person on a theroetical Bondi tram" seems, witout citation, to come out of the blue and I can not really imagine any Australian saying it outside of a court of law or Monty Python sketch. Any opinion? Reply here, there or on my user page. Best wishes SimonTrew (talk) 07:36, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Methinks someone was doing some subtle vandalism. It might actually exist but if so should be under the linked article not this (though perhaps the two articles should be merged). --Erp (talk) 01:27, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Hmmm yeah I wanted to check with Aussie friends whether they had heard of it but with (a) the time difference and (b) it being the weekend I am not sure how quickly I can do so. I asked Friday morningin the hope I would get them before bedtime but no luck.
I like the merge idea, the danger only being that one or other nation will get peed off to have it subsumed. It seems to me that the Oz bit should goin Clapham Omnibus if it was derived from it (of course we can provide a redirect etc), but I guess we'd have to check that was actually the case (though it does seem pretty well documented by the dates in the articles). SimonTrew (talk) 01:48, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Hux trees[edit]

I'm impressed! I think, whichever format, the two wives of John Collier should be near each other, even tho' it breaks date order. Psychologically, readers will think of them together -- well, I do, at least. I tend to like the arrangement: one J Collier box with short lines to each wife, rather than two JC boxes. With the second format, it would need the facility to put it in small. O/wise, as you say, it's too big. Anyway, I will happily live with whatever you decide. Many thanks, Macdonald-ross (talk) 08:43, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your work! Can your genealogical sources give us a birth date and place for Angela Huxley Darwin? From Google, I think she was born circa 1940 and educated on the east coast of USA, perhaps born there. Madeira School, McLean, Virginia, grad 1957; grad Barnard College N.Y. 1961, married 1964. Still alive, but where? Regards, Macdonald-ross (talk) 06:11, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
I think she lives in England. I did look for her birth date but couldn't find it; if I have to I can probably check with some people I know who know her. --Erp (talk) 21:58, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Bowrings[edit]

Yes, I am very interested in the Bowrings. You are quite welcome to help me out with the articles, and if you find any useful information, please let me know!
As for the John Bowring/Benjamin Bowring connection, John and Benjamin were in fact first cousins.[2] I was confused as John's grandfather was named Benjamin Bowring, and I assumed that they were the same person, until I realized that the dates didn't match up and he would have had to be a grandfather at age 14!
Thank you for taking note to this and correcting my mistake! --Kyuko (talk) 17:30, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Arnold family tree[edit]

Thanks for the updates to the Arnold family tree. William Delafield has always seemed to me to get rather short shrift. Is it possible to add dates for the women, Mary Penrose, Julia Sorrell, and Jane? I am quite sure I can find the dates in Park Honan's biography of Matthew, but I don't have it with me just now and I will have to dig a little to find where I put it. Also, is it possible to provide some sort of key noting that Jane and Forster had adopted William Delafield's children (i.e. that the dotted line here means adoption)? Mddietz (talk) 15:58, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

If you can get me the dates, I can add them. I'm not sure about adding the legend, but, I can see what I can do. --Erp (talk) 16:05, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

The key looks good to me. Most importantly it clarifies the adoption. I forgot to hunt up my Arnold bio last night. I'll make myself a note and do so tonight and get the dates. Thanks, Mddietz (talk) 15:21, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Okay! I updated the family tree in your sandbox. That was kind of neat I've never worked on a wikipedia graphic before. Thanks for letting me do that. I've left it in the sandbox and will let you upload it to the appropriate articles, frankly, cause I don't know how to do that. Mddietz (talk) 22:42, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Clerestory, clearstory[edit]

I always forget which spelling is used in the MemChu article, because both are correct. I went with the first choice 'cause that's the way its WP article spells it. I wonder what spelling they'd accept in the Spelling Bee, but I digress.

Anyway, you're so smart to take the list I got from Gregg and expand it some more! I folded the info into the Windows section, because I didn't think it warranted its own section, and then I copyedited a bit. If you could add the sources, at your convenience, that would be great! Man, this article is growing in ways I never anticipated. There's lots more work left to do, but I think we're gonna be able to fulfill all FAC concerns. Buying the Gregg book and using it has been invaluable. Thanks for your help, as always. --Christine (talk) 15:41, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

GSUSA maps[edit]

I suggest you place those maps in Category:Girl Scouts of the USA images. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 13:23, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I've placed them in Category:Girl Scouts of the USA Council maps. Should I add some info on the talk page there (or elsewhere) on how I created them (mechanics) in case other groups like the Boy Scouts want maps or people want to modify?--Erp (talk) 19:54, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Looks good. You can certainly creates some notes and we will figure out where to place them. Just have to move that island. Face-devil-grin.svg ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 02:33, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Girl mag[edit]

GSUSA doesn't publish any magazine now at all? RlevseTalk 00:21, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

"LEADER Magazine" (two to four times a year) for leaders but none for girls that I know of. According to this magazine started as a supplement to "The American Girl" and then became "Girl Scout Leader" and eventually just "LEADER Magazine". I'm also not exactly sure when "The American Girl" became just "American Girl" but sometime in the 1950s judging from covers.--Erp (talk) 05:07, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Rally began publication in 1917, became The American Girl in 1920 and ceased publication in 1979.[3] The current American Girl is by a doll company of the same name.
Agreed the current magazine has no connection. However the GS magazine also seems to have dropped "The" at some time at least informally judging from later references (1950s-1970s). --Erp (talk) 20:38, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

File:West virginia-gsusa.svg[edit]

BlackDiamond is run together in File:West virginia-gsusa.svg. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 15:33, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. I'll need to change the map again when Shawnee Council merges with National Capital. --Erp (talk) 16:43, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Girl Scout maps[edit]

How did you make these? I'd like to use them for Boy Scout maps also. - Presidentman (talk) Random Picture of the Day 11:26, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

I've started writing instructions at User:Erp/Sandbox How to make maps. Feel free to make changes in that file or ask questions in it.--Erp (talk) 21:02, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Stanford Memorial Church[edit]

Erp, it's been forever since we've talked! I guess our WP paths don't cross anymore, eh? Hope you're having a good summer. Anyway, I have renomed the MemChu article. Could you go and add your support? Thanks. --Christine (talk) 04:35, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi again, Erp. I'm sure you've noticed that I reverted your Harvard citation edits to this article. If I stepped on your toes, I apologize. The reason I did it, though, is that it's a good idea to use one citation style and stick with it. I quote from the WP:CITE policy:

How to present. Citations are usually presented within articles using one of the methods described in the How to present citations section of this guideline. Each article should use the same method throughout—if an article already has some citations, an editor should adopt the method already in use or seek consensus before changing it.

Again, I didn't mean to insult or step on toes. I have to admit, I'm a little annoyed right now, due to all the edits made after I nominated it for FAC. As it currently stands, it's not FA-quality, and things are a bit busy for me IRL to take care of it in a speedy manner. I just hope that speed isn't a factor in getting it passed. Anyway, enough venting and thanks again for your assistance in all things. --Christine (talk) 14:45, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

I would suggest using authorpageX for the cross refs, just pageX risks duplication and the addition of author makes it easier for editors to know which reference is meant without checking the references.--Erp (talk) 03:38, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

On external links[edit]

So you understand why I moved the external links in the Scouting in Alabama article: per the WP:LINKS guideline, "External links should not normally be used in the body of an article. Instead, include appropriate external links in an "External links" section at the end of the article, and in the appropriate location within an infobox, if applicable." - Dravecky (talk) 04:35, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

wonderful maps![edit]

Thanks, Emma! You rock! Care to take a stab at the map used in both Western Hemisphere Region (World Association of Girl Guides and Girl Scouts) and Interamerican Scout Region (World Organization of the Scout Movement)? Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 14:50, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

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Die Luft der Freiheit weht[edit]

Thanks for the new information about the Stanford motto and especially the link to Dr. Caspar's fascinating article. I had no idea! --MelanieN (talk) 01:30, 7 September 2009 (UTC)MelanieN, class of '63

I've heard one (or more) of his talks on the motto so it sort of stuck in my mind. If you are interested in Stanford history, you might want to look at Stanford Historical Society they have most if not all of their old publications on line with many fascinating articles. --Erp (talk) 01:51, 7 September 2009 (UTC) (class of '83)

Revisiting schools at top rank[edit]

Can you take another look back up at the top section in the assessment discussion (Wikipedia talk:WikiProject California/Assessment/Archive 2#arbitrary break-top). Another user has brought up the issue of sports and cultural influence of USC and UCLA, and I'd like to get your feedback on the issue before I switch the top rankings around any more. Thanks for all your work and input on the importance so far. -Optigan13 (talk) 05:10, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Historical atlas[edit]

Hi Erp,

Do you like to join the WikiProject Historical Atlas?Daanschr (talk) 10:50, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

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FAR - BSA membership controversies[edit]

Boy Scouts of America membership controversies has been nom'd for FAR at: Wikipedia:Featured article review/Boy Scouts of America membership controversies/archive2 RlevseTalk 15:09, 30 December 2009 (UTC)


Yes, I sometimes get the impression that the real ethical matter is not atheism, or homosexuality, or females, but "we really don't want to know". Ignorance is sad. HiLo48 (talk) 03:34, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

GSUSA councils[edit]

I noticed you have been updating councils. {{Scoutorg GSUSA}} lists all of the councils, so I have been tracking pending merges at Template talk:Scoutorg GSUSA. I added a note on how to update the council redirects. I changed Girl Scouts of Shawnee Council to reflect the new council.

Simav river[edit]

Hi Erp, It seems you had editted the article Rivers of Turkey (Aug 31, 2009). Please see my note on the talk page of the article. Have a good day. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 08:31, 25 January 2010 (UTC)


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Pease family of Darlington[edit]

Have you seen Charles E. G. Pease's work at ? Vernon White . . . Talk 22:01, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Girl Scout Senior Roundup[edit]

Please have a look. I did the best I could, but you have the magic touch.--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 04:39, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

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Scouting maps[edit]

How do you save the XML info to where it will work when using Notepad++? - Presidentman (talk · contribs) (Talkback) Random Picture of the Day 20:17, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Can you expand on the question? Personally I use emacs if I'm not using Inkscape. For notepad++ I suggest making sure you save as plain text. I see from a quick search that notepad (note sure what notepadd++ does) tends to add .txt to the end of text file names (e.g., foo.svg becomes foo.svg.txt). So do the save as and put quotes around the full file name. Note that svg files are not binary so are directly editable (though perhaps not too readable) just open the file in the editor. --Erp (talk) 06:27, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Roble Gym[edit]

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Stanford University[edit]

Would you like help setting up a WikiProject about Stanford University? I ask because of my experience setting up WikiProject Georgia Tech and your note on Talk:Stanford University. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 02:02, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Actually, it looks like someone beat me to making it: Wikipedia:WikiProject Stanford University. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 02:11, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
Sounds interesting and though it has been setup the person setting it up seems to be rather new. --Erp (talk) 05:16, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
I did notice that. I'm going ahead and creating the framework, as it seems like there's a need for such a thing, so if your watchlist is flooded by "WP:Stanford" edit summaries, I'm sorry :) —Disavian (talk/contribs) 21:11, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
I think I got most of the articles, enjoy your new statistics:: Wikipedia:WikiProject Stanford University#Assessment. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 05:51, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

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Your maps[edit]

I don't know if you noticed, but your maps found here: Category:Girl Scouts of the USA Council maps are slowly moving to Commons:Category:Girl Scouts of the USA Council maps. Do you want to help in this effort with the remaining files to make sure they move over the way you'd like them to, and I think it would be great if you took this page: User:Erp/Sandbox GS and turned it into a gallery over in the commons. Thanks. --evrik (talk) 22:16, 23 March 2012 (UTC) Did you create any of these files?

I was going to add them to the state pages. --evrik (talk) 03:58, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Anthony John Wright Biddulph[edit]

Biddulph testified at the civil hearing that he was Roger Tichborne's "second cousin". That implies that one of his parents was a cousin of James Tichborne, but the sources do not specify details of this relationship. Brianboulton (talk) 18:08, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Could use a hand here...[edit]

Hi Erp,

Somebody's taking the Pease... I've recently created an article on the Society for the Suppression of the Opium Trade, with which the Pease family were apparently heavily involved. However, I've got a dating problem. According to all the sources I can dig up on the society, it was founded by Edward Pease, a Quaker and relative of Sir Joseph Pease, 1st Baronet (also a member and later President) in 1874. Problem is, the only Edward Pease I can find who fits the description is this one - given that he died in 1858 I imagine he'd have struggled to set up a lobbying group sixteen years later...

Given that you clearly know your Peases, I was wondering if you could take a look and offer your opinion - either some of the sources are wrong, or there was a wholly different Quaker industrialist named Edward Pease knocking around in the mid-to-late nineteenth century.

The article as a whole is far from complete; if you want to expand it as well, feel free!

Cheers, Yunshui  07:58, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Looks like there was another Edward (quite a few of them actually...) - this suggests he was Sir Joseph's brother. I'm going to edit the Pease family article to reflect this. Yunshui  08:08, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
Yup, definitely him. Crisis resolved! (Although the invitation to edit SSOT still stands). Yunshui  08:42, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
Glad you were able to solve it. I tend to know more about the cousins of the Darlington Peases, the descendants of Thomas Pease (1743–1811) who was one of my ancestors, so probably couldn't be much help. However the Peases in the 19th century weren't inventive when it came to given names (Edward, Thomas, Joseph get repeated over and over again [8 Thomases, 4 Williams, and 6 Joesphs just in my branch of the family and not including the Darlington ones). I'll take a look at the article. --Erp (talk) 03:51, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Religion in … dispute[edit]

You probably didn't know, but you're all actually in one dispute. Uncle G (talk) 08:13, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Memchu has five organs[edit]

Hey my old friend Erp! Long time no associate with! ;) How pleased was I to see you at our old stomping grounds, the Memchu article. I really should take another look at it; it was so long ago when it passed to FA and I'd bet it could use some improvement and a copy-edit. It was my second-ever FA, so my editing skills have substantially improved since. Your additions about the 5th organ was great, as always. You'll notice that I made some minor changes: I standardized the Hupalo & Repasky ref, moved it to the end of the paragraph, and removed the YouTube clip because it was embedded in the above-mentioned ref anyway. Let me know if I overstepped, as always. Hope you're doing good and that you're enjoying the holidays. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 00:18, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

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Stanford in the courts[edit]

I was reading the discussion of the Stanford legal cases. I was thinking maybe it would be worth creating an article Legal history of Stanford University.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:01, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

I think too early for that since we don't have even a History of Stanford University article yet. However some legal aspects of Stanford history could be expanded notably the Founding Grant and Stanford's odd legal status (look in the California Constitution) and also the 1960s (the Bruce Franklin firing and the policy on campus disruption). This could also include info on the later modified sections of the Founding Grant limiting the number of women students and forbidding religious services on campus except non-denominational ones in the Stanford chapel. Is there an aspect in particular that you are interested in?--Erp (talk) 19:39, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

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I see that you have completed the Main Quad article and it has been nominated for DYK. Congratulations! I've been out of town for two weeks so I'm afraid I left you to finish it on your own. I don't deserve the listing as co-author - you wrote 80% of it [4]. One thing we need to do: there needs to be a citation on the sentence that mentions buildings 1 through 110. That's a DYK rule, to have a citation directly on the fact cited in the hook; it isn't enough that the information is cited elsewhere in the article. Can you do that? Because that will be the first thing they look for when they go to review the DYK nomination. --MelanieN (talk) 01:11, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Hey Erp[edit]

I just looked at your Quad article; lookin' good. Golly, it makes me want to visit Stanford; look for an email about that. I see that it's been submitted for DYK. When you submit it for GAC, let me know and I'll be happy to review it for you. I have an agenda behind that offer, though. I have a Sesame Street article languishing at FAC, so would you mind taking a look at it so that it doesn't fail for lack of interest? [5] Thanks, and best to you. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 18:03, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

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Ralph Landau building photo[edit]

Thanks so much for the photograph of the Ralph Landau building at Stanford! I've put it on the Ralph Landau page, which I've just moved out of my sandbox. Have a great day, Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 13:49, 9 October 2014 (UTC)


Just to say how much I liked your erudite comments on friends and family at CD's funeral! Look forward to the same on the ten pallbearers?

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A kitten for you![edit]


Thank you for your efforts with me to make the religion stats for Turky accurate. I hope you like kittens! If you're a dog person, imagine this as a puppy.

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Girl Scouting in the state articles[edit]

Any way you can take some time and update this section Scouting in Arizona#Girl Scouting in Arizona? Thanks! --evrik (talk) 16:21, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

I left a comment for you over on that page. --evrik (talk) 21:00, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
  • By the way, I check flickr from time to time for more girl scout images, but if you have a line on new images, please upload them! --evrik (talk) 04:38, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
  • Working on Ohio right now User:Evrik/draft3. --evrik (talk) 02:18, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

his dates please[edit]

Minor Canon Rev. John Henry Cheadle (talk) 12:33, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

I would have put them if I knew. However a check of the Times archive shows an obit for him; he died at the age of 57 on 6 Jun 1908 which would make his birth circa 1851 ("Minor Canon Cheadle." Times [London, England] 29 June 1908: 9. The Times Digital Archive. Web. 10 Jan. 2015.) --Erp (talk) 16:09, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

Draft article[edit]

Hi, Erp! At the Afd discussion for Freshman Sophomore College, it was suggested that the information could be merged into a larger article about Sterling Quad or Governors Corner. I have started working on such an article but I am not sure there is enough independent (non-Stanford) sourcing to support a Sterling Quad article. Maybe there is more about Governors Corner. See what you think, and make any changes or additions you want, at User:MelanieN/Sterling Quad. --MelanieN (talk) 01:03, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

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Thanks for the welcome, im new to wikipedia, and in the wikipedia in spanish they believe that im a sock, but is a lie, thanks--Sr.Dickens (talk) 00:27, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

in reference there are clearly the percentages, thanks--Sr.Dickens (talk) 00:11, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
Unfortunately I don't have a fast enough connection to check the sources, but, I'll note the source you used seemed to be two years older than the previous source and the figures seemed quite different; that is what the edit summary could have explained. Your best bet now since someone has reverted is to explain on Talk:Religion in the European Union why the source you chose is better than the previous one (and what page(s) from within your source you used). I can imagine quite legitimate reasons for the differences (perhaps the newer source had figures not from the European Union but only a subset [or superset]). But you'll need to justify. --Erp (talk) 00:42, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

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GA review on Main Quad started[edit]

Hi, Erp! Just a heads-up that someone has started the GA review on the Main Quad article. They will probably have suggestions for things we should fix. The review document is transcluded to the article's talk page so we can read it and respond to it there. --MelanieN (talk) 15:11, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

I have fixed the minor things. I also did a quick tweak of the "largest bequest" issue but you can probably do something better. Would you like to tackle the "full moon" expansion? --MelanieN (talk) 17:18, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

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Israel Scouting[edit]

Hello, I really want to make the Israeli related Scouting pages better and write more information about it (both in English and in Hebrew). I will be happy to get some tips and help from a professional :-) --Dor Posner (talk) 22:25, 24 July 2015 (UTC)