Talk:Margaret Isobel Cooper

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Cielquiparle (talk) 08:15, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

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• ... that Margaret Isobel Cooper recruited at first to the Women's Royal Indian Naval Service and later to MI6? Source: [1]
  • Reviewed: Alan Eckford

Created by Whispyhistory (talk). Self-nominated at 21:47, 15 January 2023 (UTC).

• ALT1... that during the Second World War, Margaret Cooper travelled 55,000 miles across India recruiting for the Women's Royal Indian Naval Service, and later worked for MI6?
• ALT2... that Margaret Cooper felt that her recruitment of young Indian women to the Women's Royal Indian Naval Service during the Second World War, helped towards emancipation?

Philafrenzy (talk) 10:31, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

General eligibility:

• New enough:
• Long enough:
• Other problems:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing:
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: - The image caption could be rewritten and condensed. It was the closest thing to a copyvio; the other matches were titles or names that can't be rephrased.

Hook eligibility:

• Cited:
• Interesting:
• Other problems: - @Whispyhistory: ALT reads a bit roughly to me, I would suggest "recruited" be changed to "was a recruiter" or "recruited women" if that seems appropriate. In ALT1 placement of "during the Second World War," is a little awkward and it's easy to assume both duties were during WWII, one after the other. I would suggest moving the phrase to read: ... that Margaret Cooper travelled 55,000 miles across India recruiting for the Women's Royal Indian Naval Service during the Second World War, then worked for MI6? For ALT3, the source I could view quoted her as saying only "…for the Indian girls, it was the experience of a lifetime and broadened their outlook considerably." Since I couldn't confirm the link to emancipation, and the source notes that this was a subjective opinion, my preference would be for an amended ALT or ALT1. I'm happy to approve either of them with minor rephrasing as suggested above.

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 20:08, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks @Mary Mark Ockerbloom:... Whispyhistory (talk) 11:57, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

• ALTa ... that Margaret Isobel Cooper was a recruiter at first to the Women's Royal Indian Naval Service and later to MI6?
• ALT1a... that Margaret Cooper travelled 55,000 miles across India recruiting for the Women's Royal Indian Naval Service during the Second World War, then worked for MI6? Whispyhistory
• ALT3... that Margaret Cooper provided "the experience of a lifetime" to the young women she recruited to the Women's Royal Indian Naval Service during the Second World War? Philafrenzy (talk) 12:57, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

These hooks are now okay. My personal preference is for ALTa or ALT1a over ALT3. Nice work! Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 19:38, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Rank and Appointment

Hello, I made a minor change to Cooper's rank and appointment. Her rank was Chief Officer (the equivalent of an RN/RIN Commander) and her appointment was as deputy director WRINS. Similar errors conflating rank & appointment are seen on several pages regarding various women's services. Nick Metcalfe (talk) 18:08, 8 September 2024 (UTC)