Talk:Marina Oswald Porter

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This is a discussion page[edit]

Use it instead of reverting. Edit warring instead of discussion will lead to blocks. 1 != 2 17:29, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Full name?[edit]

A Russian friend was telling me that her birth name doesn't make sense, it has two patrynomics, which he says is impossible. The form used here shows up very rarely in Google. Anyone know more about this?

I think you are correct, even though I don't know who you are, since you didn't sign your message. Look at the history of the page. The last person that changed her Russian birth name had clearly exaggerated a bit on the patronimics. It was correct before the person did that. Checking the external links on this very page you can ascertain that. I will do that (re-check), and also check other written sources I have and I will correct it. Thanks.
warshy (talk) 12:05, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. Sorry I forgot to sign.--Jeff (talk) 16:02, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Her family name Prusakova shows that she was of Lithuanian (Prussian) origin and lived in an ancient Lithuanian city Minsk (which is a capital of russified Lithuanians today). Anyone knows more about her origins? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.151.247.50 (talk) 08:47, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Minsk is not Lithuanian city, it was founded before temporarily going under Lithuanian rule. But the idea of Prussian origins is interesting. Other idea may be driven from very common calling roaches as 'prusaki' (pl. from 'prusak', a person from Prussia) in Russian. 77.126.142.173 (talk) 11:18, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Uncle[edit]

This article claims her uncle was KGB/MVD, the Lee Harvey Oswald#Life in the Soviet Union article claims While later reports described her uncle as a colonel in the KGB or MVD, he was actually a lumber industry expert in the MVD with a bureaucratic rank equivalent to colonel. Both claims show no source, sadly. Some expert might want to fix that. Tierlieb (talk) 20:24, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Alleged assassin[edit]

Why does it seem not to be allowed to place 'alleged' in front of 'assassin' in 'the widow of Lee Harvey Oswald, the assassin of U.S. President John F. Kennedy' ? Since the LHO article shows a high level of debate and controversy and since polls conducted in America show high and consistent level of doubt over the years on that subject, i don't see why it couldn't translate to this article. --Alllexxxis (talk) 08:52, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Following the current situation at the Lee Harvey Oswald page leads to my edit of the intro, which is undeniably true; US government investigations name Oswald as JFK's assassin, though one of the three state that other(s) acted with Oswald. While I have no problem with the word alleged, some do. This is a compromise between 'alleged' and 'is the assassin.' Jusdafax 02:20, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

This might not stay for long, but I just changed the phrase to, "suspected of assassinating". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.48.152.54 (talk) 20:19, 26 May 2010 (UTC) I forgot to log in, ai4ijoel

His article states "according to four government investigations," hers should too so it was added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Billjanet (talkcontribs) 23:58, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Article needs more text[edit]

The article, as it now stands, is rather brief with short, choppy sentences. Surely, it can be fleshed out a bit.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:28, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Terrible article. It focuses mainly on the assassination, rather than the subject, Marina Oswald Porter. And there is precious little of that. With all that has been written about the principals of this event, it is ridiculous that this article not contain more information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.169.72.186 (talk) 06:18, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Notability[edit]

Marina Oswald is exceptionally notable, I am shocked anyone could believe otherwise. She has been featured in many television programs and documentaries regarding the Kennedy Assassination. There are hundreds of bios on Wikipedia less notable than Marina Oswald. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.76.35.167 (talk) 05:25, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

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Article has been hijacked by conspiracy theorists[edit]

This article contains the controversial claim that the "backyard photos" of Lee Harvey Oswald are forgeries. This claim is presented as if it is an unchallenged fact, rather than an unproven theory. The photos have, in fact, been examined many times by experts and determined to be genuine. The source given is Robert Groden, a fringe conspiracy author who has been thoroughly discredited, was fired from the HSCA investigation panel because of his crazy theories, and was discovered to have lied about his expertise in photography (he has none). If the theory that the photos were faked is to be presented, that's fine as long as it is also stated that this view is only a fringe theory and that the authenticity of the photos has been verified by every credible expert who has examined them. I have attempted to fix the article several times but my changes are repeatedly reverted as vandalism. Thank you. Owl uprising (talk) 00:11, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Fringe material[edit]

I am removing the following material:

The Warren Commission reported that Jack Crichton, the 1964 Republican candidate for governor of Texas, arranged for a member of the local Russian community to act as translator in the police questioning of Marina, during which she implicated Oswald in the assassination.[1]

The book that this material is cited to states through inference, innuendo, and hearsay that that George H.W. Bush was involved in a conspiracy and cover-up of the assassination of Kennedy. According to the page cited, Crichton was a Bush-crony who enlisted a Republican anti-Communist, Ilya Mamantov, to twist the translations of Marina in order to implicate Lee Harvey Oswald. The importance of Mamantov's role is not addressed in reliable secondary sources, so I am removing this per WP:REDFLAG. - Location (talk) 00:48, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Baker, Russ (2010). Family of Secrets: The Bush Dynasty, America's Invisible Government, and the Hidden History of the Last Fifty Years. US: Bloomsbury. p. 119. ISBN 1-608-19192-3. 

Current married name[edit]

Did she really keep the name "Oswald" as part of her name after re-marrying? I can see "Marina Oswald Porter" as a handy way of referring to her, but unless that's the name she put on her marriage certificate and now uses legally, we shouldn't be presenting that as her name. I would think that "Marina Nikolayevna Porter (née Prusakova, later Oswald)" or some similar formulation would be more accurate. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 20:38, 1 March 2016 (UTC)