This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourcedmust be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.
This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
An editor has requested that an image or photograph be added to this article.
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Crime and Criminal Biography articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Crime and Criminal BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject Crime and Criminal BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Crime and Criminal BiographyCrime-related articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject London, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of London on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.LondonWikipedia:WikiProject LondonTemplate:WikiProject LondonLondon-related articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject United Kingdom, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the United Kingdom on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.United KingdomWikipedia:WikiProject United KingdomTemplate:WikiProject United KingdomUnited Kingdom articles
The entry states this: "A few days before the riots, Michael Groce was involved in a domestic dispute with his girlfriend. In frustration, he fired a gun." That has to be one of the most oblique descriptions I've ever read. First, it's not sourced. Second, it would appear to violate NPOV, since it seems to me to be soft-peddling what could very well have been an act of violence and intimidation by Groce, rather than merely "frustration". Third, I doubt that anyone has ever "fired a gun in frustration", especially in a domestic abuse case, which is what this sounds like. He fired a gun, but was he also threatening his girlfriend with it at the time? Sounds FAR more likely to me. I would like to see this claim of "firing a gun in frustration" attributed to an independent, objective and authoritative source, or changed to simply "During the argument, he fired a gun", or something to that effect. Bricology (talk) 22:29, 8 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
