Talk:Michael Hastings (journalist)

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Michael's family[edit]

The article says, "Furthermore, Hastings' family does not believe Michael was assassinated..."

It is incorrect to say that, since his wife believes he was assassinated: "The wife of Rolling Stone journalist Michael Hastings, who was killed in what many people believe was a suspicious car crash last week, has vowed to “take down whoever did this." beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/06/michael-hastings-wife-vows-to-take-down-whoever-did-this-2693622.html His friend Staff Sergeant Joseph Biggs defiantly does not think its an accident and has discussed this on different media outlets.

Also Hasting's body was cremated, even though his family did not request this. The wife has hired a private investigator.2 --Jane955 (talk) 08:15, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

The statement is correct as far as the source is concerned. -Jordgette [talk] 09:05, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Wiki is a summary of different articles and they are implying that the whole family does not question this accident, which is completely false. The wife has even hired a private investigator. They could write 'The parents believe....and the wife believes.....'

Any way, I agree with your previous comment. There is a problem with what they wrote, about the explosion prior to the impact. On TYT (if the translation is correct) a witness named Jose said that there were only flames & sparks before the car hit the tree. He talks about explosions after the car hit the tree. The Wiki article gives this link 6CW(or Reference #43 on the article page), which tells a completely different story. They write, 'An eyewitness at the scene, Jose, employed at nearby business ALSCO Inc said, the car was travelling very fast and he heard a couple explosions shortly before the car crashed.' If the first translation is correct, then what they wrote in the article is incorrect. --Jane955 (talk) 13:37, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Conspiracy theorist cited[edit]

Article cites a known conspiracy theorist Kimberly Dvorak as a source for the citation claiming "some described the circumstances surrounding the crash as suspicious."

Also, article cites that same source claiming a "death threat" by an "unnamed staffer" mentioned in "Hastings book, “The Operators: The Wild and Terrifying Inside Story of America's War in Afghanistan,”".
Neither is true.
Firstly, so called "unnamed staffer" is named 18 times in this excerpt alone - he is "Jake McFerren, a retired Army colonel and longtime McChrystal friend and confidant". Secondly, he apologized.

"A few minutes later, McChrystal and I started talking again. Jake interrupted.
“Sorry about threatening to kill you,” Jake said.
It was the first time anyone in the group had acknowledged the blow­out on Friday night.
“Yeah, geez, the guy is just trying to do his job,” McChrystal said.
“No worries. Like I said, it happens all the time, but yeah, you’re probably the highest rank to do so,” I said. I laughed, and they didn’t."--89.146.143.253 (talk) 21:09, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

I am on record multiple times on this page as being against inclusion of the conspiracy speculations, and I wouldn't mind seeing all of them removed at this late date. Including the disingenuous "consistent with cyberattack" claims of Richard Clarke, who was promoting a book on cyber-warfare when Hastings died. -Jordgette [talk] 22:39, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
I also feel that the recently added quote from The Operators is entirely inappropriate. -Jordgette [talk] 16:42, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
Criticism of Hasting's book is worthless here, and I'm skeptical of proscribing citation of Dvorak, even when she's published in high quality outlets, based on an article from Mother Jones. Agree completely with Jordgette though: I've removed the text from that section and shortened it to make it far less prominent in the section on his book. -Darouet (talk) 17:05, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
Also, the implication that Clarke said those things just to promote his book is ludicrous. He writes books full time now, and despite his professional participation in the US War on Terror at the highest levels, has repeatedly criticized aspects of US anti-terrorism or war policies. -Darouet (talk) 17:09, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

Vault 7[edit]

From WikiLeaks’ Vault 7 series “Year Zero” press release: "As of October 2014 the CIA was also looking at infecting the vehicle control systems used by modern cars and trucks. The purpose of such control is not specified, but it would permit the CIA to engage in nearly undetectable assassinations." Is it important to include this in the article? --87.156.234.164 (talk) 18:55, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Hastings died in 2013, so, no. The CIA looking into the possibility over a year later is not relevant to the article. Perhaps more important, though, adding this detail would be synthesis: We need a reliable source to make the connection between Hastings and this Wikileaks passage before it goes into the article. We WP editors can't make that speculative connection. -Jordgette [talk] 20:55, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
Problems with the March 20 2017 attempt to add this material: (1) A discussion board on a website (eetimes) is not a reliable source. (2) As far as I can tell, David Proffer is not notable as a car researcher. (3) www.911forum.org.uk is not a reliable source. -Jordgette [talk] 01:24, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

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Controversy about death[edit]

This is well-covered above. I reverted a statement in the lead that Hastings had been killed by the FBI or CIA. User has added this back in as a "possibly" in the lead. There is a whole section on it in the article and given that it is controversial I don't think it should be in the lead, or not in the current terms anyway. Tacyarg (talk) 05:10, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Tacyarg, I've removed it. -Darouet (talk) 13:10, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

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