Talk:Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-9

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Good article Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-9 has been listed as one of the Warfare good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
September 29, 2011 Good article nominee Listed

WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008[edit]

Article reassessed and graded as start class. --dashiellx (talk) 17:00, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

They all look alike[edit]

I do wonder just how "comparable" the P-80, Ouragan, & Vampire are. Should the J21 also be included, then? The Yak-15? Yak-17? Yak-23? TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 15:21, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Go further back, a more likely candidate may be the German Third Reich WW2 Messerschmitt P.1101 (captured by the Russians as well? (or at least spy information)?) (talk) 21:56, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-9/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Sp33dyphil (talk · contribs) 00:50, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

  • please add alt text.]
    • No longer a requirement at any level.
  • "610 aircraft were built, including prototypes and they entered service in 1948 with the Soviet Air Forces." Please reword so the number is not at the start.
    • Done.
  • "defend Chinese cities" from what?
    • Added.
  • link "MiG-15" at first mention.
    • It was already, last line of the first paragraph of the lede.
  • "the Council of People's Commissars ordered that the Mikoyan-Gurevich design bureau (OKB) to"
    • Good catch.
  • "Intended as a bomber destroyer interceptor" it's your call.
    • Interceptors don't necessarily have a heavy cannon armament, just, usually, short range and high rate of climb.
  • "Three prototypes should be ready were scheduled for flight tests by 15 March 1946."]
    • Not sure I agree with this. The Council ordered that three aircraft be ready, just like it ordered that the aircraft meet various performance goals. That's not quite the same thing as scheduled, IMO. It's a subtle distinction, I know. What are your thoughts?
  • "izdeliye F" italicise; please check throughout article.
    • Done.
  • link "first flight"
  • Done.
  • "at Ramenskoye (also known as Zhukovsky) to begin"
    • I can't tell whether borders shifted or the LII moved, but both towns exist independently. Maybe the LII is in Zhukovsky while the airfield is in Ramenskoye, but I'm going to stick to my source.
  • "although it which only lasted six minutes"
  • Done.
  • "In the meantime, Meanwhile the horizontal stabilizer"
  • Done. Thanks for the review.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 17:11, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
♠"That's not quite the same thing as scheduled". I'd say stick to something like "instructed be ready". In a Red AF context, this was akin to a command performance, & the penalty for missing a deadline could be fairly serious. TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 03:50, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
  • I think Trekphiler is correct. I'd change the original wording, but prefer Trek's wording. Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:57, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
  • Rephrased.
It may be worth mentioning the other designs produced as a result of the Feb 45 meeting (i.e. the Yak-15, Su-9 and La-150). In particular, it may be worth stating that the Yak-15 first flew on the same day as the MiG, and that the MiG alledgedly flew foirst as a result of a coin toss (according to Gunston). Otherwise, after a quick scan it seems OK.Nigel Ish (talk) 22:16, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
I added the bit about the coin toss; I just wish that it was confirmed by Gordon. Thanks for looking in on this.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 04:57, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
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    No edit wars, etc.:
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"First Soviet turbojet developed by Mikoyan-Gurevich..."[edit]

I'm confused by this. Was the MiG-9 the first Soviet turbojet? Or the first turbojet designed by Mikoyan-Gurevich? I'm assuming Mikoyan-Gurevich didn't design turbojets for other nations before the MiG-9.R5452 (talk) 02:11, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Clarified.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:37, 28 March 2013 (UTC)