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Incomplete and Assumptive[edit]

We don't know that the dragon from the additional book of Daniel was a Mušḫuššu. Also the Mušḫuššu has a history dating back much much further than Marduk, who came late in the evolution of the Mušḫuššu. To say it is connected to Marduk is like saying Native American mythology belongs to European Colonialists! True, the religion of Marduk assimilated the Mušḫuššu as a slave creature, but the religious leaders in Babylon appropriated many other religious icons for their own use with seemingly little understanding of the traditions extending back for centuries. I am busy writing the Ningishzida article right now, since the Mušḫuššu is a proper extension of the transtigridian snake gods, I will try to get to this article after Ningishzida is presentable. I just wanted to put a little "reader beware" here to let you know there is not a lot of reliable information here.

Ningishzidda (talk) 21:43, 20 August 2011 (UTC)


Incomplete, assumptive and with irrelevant sections[edit]

Mušḫuššu isn't that dragon. It don't have any connection. Again, also is not easy to confirm a connection with Hydrus or with any other dragon: for example Mušmaḫḫu or the seven-head dragon or Lašmu have astrological conection but that doesn't make them Hydra. Also, the start of the article is a joke. And what about Transtigridian Snake Gods? and elamite roots?

Also the entire Cryptocrap section is irrelevant and non-encyclopedic.--Jakeukalane (talk) 01:11, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Mušḫuššu renamed to Mushussu?[edit]

Why has this page been renamed? If it was so important to get rid of the special characters, couldn't it at least have been renamed to something approximating to the correct spelling of the name? BigEars42 (talk) 00:57, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

I believe such characters are not supposed to be used in titles. FunkMonk (talk) 12:27, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
Special characters can be used for titles. there is no rule to prohibit this. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:44, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Mušḫuššu. BigEars42 (talk) 02:28, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

MushussuMušḫuššu –A previous editor renamed the page mušḫuššu as mushussu as he was probably unaware that š = sh and that ḫ = kh (Scottish “ch”), thus leaving the name misspelled. I tried to revert this change after discussing it with him (currently fifth item listed) but seem to have been blocked. The page was named mušḫuššu for good reason, as mushkhushshu or mushhushshu is a bit of an eyesore. Mushussu is, however, completely wrong. The naming conventions do not prohibit the use of diacritical marks and I request the original name be reinstated.BigEars42 (talk) 01:35, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

  • Why not just restore it yourself? Mušmaḫḫū is with the academic romanization, this doesn't seem like a move (3 June) that had any prior consensus or discussion on Talk page (6 June above). And user FunkMonk is wrong about titles. I would just restore it, if after restoring title FunkMonk then wants to propose a move then fine. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:30, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
I tried reverting (actually twice) but reversion seems to have been blocked, hence the request for restoration here. BigEars42 (talk) 09:00, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
It may be because you're not autoconfirmed - I just did it for you and it worked. I suppose we could let the RM run, but since the original mover didn't object and you only came here because of a technical limit, I can't see the point. Unless someone suddenly appears with a burning objection to academic Assyrian romanization. You might want however to contribute to the relevant Ancient Near East MOS page, if there is one. If there isn't perhaps there should be, cheers. In ictu oculi (talk) 17:28, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
Curiously my preferences show me as autoconfirmed but perhaps there are gradations of this status? BigEars42 (talk) 02:28, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Sirrush is by far the most common English name[edit]

Why was this article moved from Sirrush in the first place? Sirrush is by far the most common name for this creature in English; that it is an incorrect transliteration of the original Akkadian word is neither here nor there (plenty of words have entered English as a result of garbling another language). No-one but assyriologists ever use the term 'Mušḫuššu', and all the diacritics are cumbersome and unhelpful to people who don't how to pronounce them (who consist of most people who aren't assyriologists). See 3900 google hits for Mušḫuššu (including many wikipedia clones); 42,300 for sirrush. Google books has 778 for sirrush and 105 for Mušḫuššu. Even google scholar has 72 hits for sirrush and only 16 for Mušḫuššu. Wikipedia policy for naming articles is that the most common English name should be used as the main namespace. The most common name is this case is clearly 'Sirrush', and the article should be moved back there. (talk) 16:17, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Sirrush is wrong so it shouldn't be used. (talk) 11:58, 8 June 2017 (UTC)