Talk:My Heart Is Broken

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Cover[edit]

Can someone please upload the cover for the song. I really have to go now. My love is love (talk) 22:08, 24 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

on it!  Done ~ [ Scott M. Howard ] ~ [ Talk ]:[ Contribs ] ~ 22:14, 24 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. My love is love (talk) 19:27, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Credits[edit]

Does anyone have the album, to add the credits of the song? My love is love (talk) 11:04, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I honestly don't think it was ever printed or pressed outside your standard plainCD sent to radio stations. I've been looking for it ever since it was released (this is the FIRST single other than Good Enough that I haven't owned). ~ [ Scott M. Howard ] ~ [ Talk ]:[ Contribs ] ~ 23:38, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

My Heart Is Broken working title[edit]

Why was the link to the interview where Amy Lee says that the working title for "My Heart Is Broken" was "Metalocalarp" removed? --Markhoris (talk) 12:41, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Two reasons: amyleebrasil.com no longer appears to be working...tried it then, tried it a day later, and tried it just now, and it simply times out. Tried a third party access verifier which returned the same. Tried Google Translate to see if they could access it, which also resulted in a time out. For what seems to be a fan site, not being able to independently verify means it doesn't meet reliability standards. Also, it was labeled as "original title", while other places I've found the term call it a "working title", which most songs have, and which aren't even remotely notable considering they are simply placeholders. I tried to find some other reliable source which might prove useful, and found nothing, just what appears to be repeats from some kind of interview, but I cannot locate the interview itself. To be blunt, I don't trust anything I've seen so far. Even if a reliable alternate can be found, I would ask for other opinions before it gets added back to the article, as it seems awfully trivia-like. — Huntster (t @ c) 13:02, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Wierd, the site took a long time to load but it works for me. And there is also this archive of Lee's posts in the Spotify chat (where she said what the song's working title was), which is also on a fan site. And I disagree on "Metalocalarp" being trivia-like, I think a working title is an important part of a song's history. --Markhoris (talk) 13:15, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Cartoon network freak (talk · contribs) 19:25, 6 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Review coming soon... Best, Cartoon network freak (talk) 19:25, 6 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Cartoon network freak. This article's got some issues with dead links I haven't fixed yet, as I expected this to take a little longer. I keep forgetting. I will complete these in a strafe-run tomorrow. dannymusiceditor Speak up! 02:15, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Lead[edit]

  • Add release year of the studio album in brackets
  • The song was written → you've already used "song" before; use "recording" here
  • Erm, I'm going to have to disagree with this one. You don't write recordings. Do you have another idea? I mean, I do see your redundancy point. Nevermind, replaced with "track" instead.
  • Unlink "production"
  • rock ballad that begins with piano and Lee's vocals before transcending into guitars and drums. → This is too detailed for the lead; maybe you can try something like: rock ballad, whose instrumentation consists of piano, guitars and drums.
  • The song received favorable → you've already used "song" before
  • link "music critics" to music journalism
  • who praised Lee's vocal and piano combination, as well as guitars and drums, and several chose it as a highlight on the album → who praised the combination between Lee's vocals and piano playing, as well as its fellow instrumentation; several of them chose it as a highlight on the album.
  • It reached → better: Commercially, it reached
  • 92 → number 92
  • 34 → number 34
  • filmed in December → the December of which year?
  • in Los Angeles and it was directed by → in Los Angeles by
  • Is "film" synonymous to "direct" here? I don't know, so I did tweak it from the original but would like to know this first. That is what would be happening if I implemented it the way you have it.
  • Yes, it is a synonym of "direct", and my suggestion would sound better that the actual form. Cartoon network freak (talk) 09:41, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • after was leaked → after it was leaked
  • on their third worldwide → for their third worldwide

 Done with anything I didn't comment on (though the edit hasn't been saved in the mainspace yet) dannymusiceditor Speak up! 23:48, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox[edit]

  • Image needs alternative text
  • Please make the "(album version)" and "(radio edit)" small
  • Please use a "flat list" for enlisting the writers

Does an hlist work? They're more simple to work with for me and produce the same result.  Done if so. dannymusiceditor Speak up! 23:49, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, a hlist does also make a good job ;) Cartoon network freak (talk) 09:42, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Background and composition[edit]

  • Williams and it was produced → Williams, while production was handled
  • wrote the song → you've already used "song" in the precedent sentence
  • She added that the band wrote the song along with "What You Want" and the piano part at the beginning of the song was written on a harp, which was a slower and an easier instrument for her → The singer added that the band wrote the single along with "What You Want", with the piano part at the beginning of the track being as well composed on a harp, which Lee considered a slower and easier instrument for her.
  • the song so when it was time to record the song it was impossible to play it on a harp. → the song, causing it not to be playable on a harp.
I would've had to alter the whole sentence to end it like this; if I just pasted it in, I'd have another grammar error. I have changed the ending, but not this way. Let me know if you like it; I will put it this way if you insist.
As it stands now it's fine. Cartoon network freak (talk) 09:43, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • sings the lines → singing the lines
  • website IGN found → website IGN noticed
  • "My Heart Is Broken", saying: "A → "My Heart Is Broken" as being "a
The tone of the following sentence is a story of something that happened, not a description of something necessarily. Implementing this would be improper, or at least worse than what's given.
Ok then. Cartoon network freak (talk) 09:43, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • place - what → place – what
  • There are overall too much consecutive instances of "song" in this section; please try alternating with "track", "single", "recording"...

 Done with everything else. dannymusiceditor Speak up! 00:06, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Release[edit]

  • On August 22, 2011, Lee went to Toronto's Liberty Studios to preview five mastered songs from the new album to a selected crowd of thirty people.[5][9] "My Heart Is Broken" was one of the five previewed songs. → On August 22, 2011, Lee went to Liberty Studios in Toronto in order to preview five mastered songs from the band's studio album—including "My Heart Is Broken"—to a selected crowd of thirty people.
  • soundtrack to the movie → soundtrack of movie
  • Are you certain? This sounds so wrong to me...
  • Saga: Breaking Dawn.[10] Drummer Will Hunt said, → Saga:, with drummer Will Hunt saying;
  • However, the song was not included on the soundtrack. On September 27, 2011, the song premiered online, two weeks prior to the album's release. → However, the recording was not included on the soundtrack, subsequently premiering online on September 27, 2011, two weeks prior to the album's release.
  • single from the album. → single from Evanescence.
  • The song was sent to pop → As a result, the song was sent to pop
  • Is this necessarily a result of being announced as a single? The Sword released "The Hidden Masters"/"Arcane Montane" as a single, but that didn't necessarily mean it was going to radio. Likewise with Pearl Jam's "Black", which never saw a single release but has gone on to be one of their most well-known and well-charted and airplayed songs.
  • on November 11, 2011.[15] It was later → on November 11, 2011, being later
  • In this section, please alternate "song" with other words, as well, as this word repeats countless times here.

 Done with everything I don't have a comment on. dannymusiceditor Speak up! 00:20, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Reception[edit]

  • Image > Amy Lee performing during an Evanescence concert on October 25, 2011 → Lee performing with her band in October 2011.
  • Before you start with enlisting the reviews, you need to write a sentence like "Upon its release, the single received favorable reviews from music critics."
  • Allmusic → AllMusic
  • Steve Beebee of rock magazine Kerrang! also chose the song as a highlight on the album, adding → Echoing this thought, Steve Beebee of rock magazine Kerrang! added
  • Lewis Corner chose the song → Lewis Corner labelled the recording
  • Artistdirect said, "On 'My → Artistdirect wrote; "On 'My
  • praised "My Heart Is Broken" saying → praised "My Heart Is Broken", saying
  • Calling the song "fiery" → Naming the song "fiery" (word repetition)
  • How's "describing" work for you?
  • of the website IGN → remove "the"
  • of The Arizona Republic wrote, "Really, → of The Arizona Republic felt; "Really, (word repetition)
  • "Really" was not used to describe a feeling in this context. So I'll use "said".
  • of the newspaper Metro → remove "the"
  • commented, "Standard → commented; "Standard"
  • The following week, it fell to number 67, and the next week it fell off the chart. → The subsequent edition, it fell to position 67, with it exiting the chart after a total of three weeks.
I like the ending part, but "subsequent edition" may be unsuitable. "Following week" does the job fine. The average reader probably thinks of editions of the chart as different division of the same chart. (I mean, Billboard has a lot, and Canada and the UK also have several. The primary reader will be from there because that's where Evanescence has had the most success. So let's be perfectly clear.)
I read your solution, and it's eligible as well. Cartoon network freak (talk) 09:52, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • It also debuted → The recording also debuted

 Done with everything without a comment. dannymusiceditor Speak up! 00:35, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Music video[edit]

Development[edit]

  • The accompanying music video → An accompanying music video
  • It began filming → Filming commenced
  • that the video for the song was "ethereal". She also said, "This → that the visual was "ethereal", also saying that; "This
  • Lee also stated that to get the surreality in the video, she further drew inspiration from the dark fantasy horror film Paperhouse (1988). → The singer further confessed that the clip draws inspiration from the..., in order to achieve the surreality.
  • Lee explained: "[It's about] → Echoing this thought, Lee explained; "[It's about]
  • She shouldn't echo herself.
  • To create the video, the band used fiber optics and according to Lee, they helped her drawing world around her from nothingness, and when she drew things with her hands, the things came to life. → When filming the video, fiber optics were used reportedly in order to create the effect of things coming to life after touching them.
  • She stated that "the guys' performance is sort of like the dream within the dream, in an abyss of darkness". → This brings nothing to the section and can be thus be removed.
  • This was intended for description of the band's performance in the video, as opposed to Amy Lee's. I can remove this for now, but what do you think about me re-implementing it later, if I can elaborate on it?

Apart from comments,  Done. dannymusiceditor Speak up! 03:22, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Concept[edit]

  • Change the title of this subtopic from "Concept" to "Synopsis"
  • The video begins with Lee lying on a black background while lyp-syncing the lyrics of the song. Shots of the rest of the band performing the song are shown as well as shots of Lee with a white light in her hand which she uses to draw lines. She gets up off the ground and starts creating grass around her with the white light. Shots of the band are shown again as well as Lee singing the song and showing her emotions. The camera then returns to Lee who's drawing stars with the light in her hand and walking in the world that she has created. The next shots feature Lee playing the piano in a room where the light comes from a small window. The video returns to Lee who draws a mirror and walls in her world and continues singing the song.[34] At the end, she looks through the window and touches the mirror which starts breaking and illuminating the screen with white light.[34][35] According to James Montgomery of MTV News, at the end, "she eventually realizes that, in spite of her attempts, she is just as trapped as she was before... At clip's end, the viewer is left to wonder whether she has the power to escape... which, in a way, only further connects the video to the song itself." → The video commences with Lee lying on a black background while lip-syncing the lyrics of the song, with shots of the fellow members and the singer drawing lines with a light in her hand being seen. Following this, she gets up off the ground and starts creating grass around her with the light previously shown. Subsequently, she is portrayed drawing stars and walking through the world she has created. The next scene sees the singer playing the piano in a room with a small window, which Lee then touches to break and to illuminate the screen with white light. According to James Montgomery of MTV News, at the end, "she eventually realizes that, in spite of her attempts, she is just as trapped as she was before [...] At clip's end, the viewer is left to wonder whether she has the power to escape [...] which...

 Done. dannymusiceditor Speak up! 03:38, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Release and reception[edit]

  • January 18, 2012.[36] The video premiered → January 18, 2012, with the visual premiering
  • noted that the video was a → noticed that the clip was a
  • He later noted that the video was a "dark, → In an article published later, he labelled the visual as being "dark,
  • that too."[35] He further described it as "both → that too," further describing it as
  • Billboard magazine → magazine Billboard
  • described the video as "mystical" → saw the music video as "mystical"
  • Spin magazine wrote, "[The video] → Sing wrote; "[The video]
  • You need to explain what there is on July 4.
  • She further added, "It's → She further added; "It's

 Done. dannymusiceditor Speak up! 03:38, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Live performances[edit]

  • set list on their → set list of their
  • Evanescence.[23] Sophie Schillaci → Evanescence; Sophie Schillaci

 Done dannymusiceditor Speak up! 03:38, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Charts[edit]

  • Please add "!scope="row"|" for countries
Can I get a little help with this one? I butcher these every time. dannymusiceditor Speak up! 03:41, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I will fix that for you before passing this. Cartoon network freak (talk) 09:57, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Other stuff[edit]

Copy-violation[edit]

Images[edit]

  • I don't see how the thumbnail from the music video is beneficial to the article; please remove it.

Links[edit]

References[edit]

  • As far as I checked them, the references do cover the assertations made in this article.
  • 4 References are dead. Please take a look at this and fix the issues.
  • The title for Ref #17 (AllMusic) is incorrect.

Outcome[edit]

  • I've put this  On hold in order to allow edits on the article. Best regards and good luck, Cartoon network freak (talk) 22:47, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • @DannyMusicEditor: I've responded to your comments, and I'm awaiting you to fix the dead links in order to make few fine-tuning fixes before passing this to GA. Best, Cartoon network freak (talk) 09:59, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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