Talk:My Life (Mary J. Blige album)

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Rename[edit]

I am renaming the album's article bcz of an unusual situation: the title My Life is a common one for albums, and "My Life" a still more common one for songs. About half of such albums that we have articles for include such songs, but this is the only such album whose "My Life" song has its own article ("My Life" (Mary J. Blige song)). The disambiguation problem's solution is not too confusing, as long as My Life (Mary J. Blige album) becomes a Rdr to the renamed article on the album, namely My Life (Mary J. Blige). This relies on two favorable facts:

  1. The album's article is much longer than the song's (suggesting it is more likely to be sought under the title that could reasonably apply to either).
  2. Having the Dab My Life direct both users seeking the album and those seeking the song to the same page offends the Principle of least astonishment far less than the reverse, since the song is part of the album but obviously the reverse is not the case.

With a HatNote Dab at the top of the album's article, reading

This page is about the album. For the song, see My Life (Mary J. Blige song).

users more interested in the song than the album will be offered the link directly there, without having to read down to the second 'graph where we would hope they would not overlook the less prominent link there to the song's article.
(To make the "Musical works" section of the Dab page work, it will have three straightforward sub-sections:

Albums My Life that include songs "My Life"
Other albums My Life
Other songs "My Life"

to replace the confusingly tricky entry-by-entry exceptions to the supposed scopes of entries within the two former (seemingly clear-cut) sections "Albums" and "Songs". Conversely, the HatNote seen only by those seeking MB works obviates whatever inevitably confusing arrangement could be found for singling out entries for the MB song and MB album as exceptions from all roles played by any of the two larger and one equally large subsections.)
(Rereading, i see i have not mentioned a point i now haven't the patience to optimally position within this contrib: the prohibition, on Dab pages, of the confusing and clutter-expanding practice of using two links, with different purposes, to the same article; it means that having links to My Life (Iris DeMent album) or My Life (Ronnie Milsap album) in both "Songs" and "Albums" is not an acceptable approach.)
--Jerzy•t 06:42, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is hardly a situation unique to this particular title, and this kind of change involves not just disambiguation page style issues, but WikiProject Music standards. Leaving the link to the song article off the dab page entirely with the rationale of making the article easier to find is questionable at best--finding that entry on the dab page is hardly onerous, and I didn't find that your changes to the dab page (taking two simple headers, Albums and Songs, and turning them into three wordy ones) made navigation any easier. And naming the album article My Life (Mary J. Blige) is not a disambiguation style used or approved in the naming conventions for music articles, and it would, for the sake of consistency, require renaming a large number of articles for albums that also have articles for their title songs. It seems to me it would be better to discuss a change of this magnitude before implementing it.--ShelfSkewed Talk 15:00, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
(Responding to Shelf's post at WP:ALBUMS) It seems like what you are proposing is a much more complicated system than we already have in place. It would require much more work and thought put in on disambig pages, where I think we shouldn't attract undue attention from where the real improvement needs to be in the articles. As for your point #2, it seems unclear. The dab offends the principle far less than what? What exactly is the reverse or this practice? —Akrabbimtalk 15:49, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
(Another brought here from WP:ALBUMS) - sorry, but it seems better to keep things as they are. I can't see that there's a problem with My Life (Mary J. Blige album). The proposed dab is confusing for the reader by having a more complicated structure, and My Life (Mary J. Blige) would be non-standard and loses the fact that it's an album. PL290 (talk) 19:06, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry Jerzy, I have to pile on as well, this time from WP:MOSDAB. Changing the article title solves the problem in a more isolated, clean and understandable fashion than restructuring the dab page. And perhaps on the dab page put lines like
where MJB maps the the appropriate artist's name. (John User:Jwy talk) 20:36, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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