Talk:Nicole Hernandez Hammer
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Reviewer: Edwininlondon (talk · contribs) 11:42, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
Happy to review this. First a few general comments and prose comments:
- Missing birth date: I assume the reason for this is that they are no sources for this?
- Nicole Hernández Hammer was born --> I believe usually the birth name is used at the beginning of the article. If a year for the name change is known then the birth name is used up to then, ideally including a sentence such as "In xxx she married y and changed her name to zzz".
- In the research section a few items should be linked: climate change, Latino populations, sea level rise
- Inconsistent spelling of sea level rise: no hyphen needed
- I think the article would benefit from a few more lines on her research findings, e.g., a few specifics following the opening sentence of the research section. Would that be possible? I see on Google Scholar the word infrastructure appears a few times in the titles of her work, so perhaps that could be a topic?
- The last bits of the research section seem more appropriate in the next section, Public outreach. This makes an even stronger ase for adding a bit more substance to the research section.
- In 2013, Hammer was a part of the 2013 --> duplication of 2013 does not make for an elegant sentence
- and has done many interviews and publications --> is this still in 2013? Maybe this needs a rephrase as well. This part of the sentenceseems more appropriote in the Outreach section, whereas the 2013 Climate Assessment bit seems to be more research, right?
- Hammer says she wishes she took --> would it be simpler to say "Hammer regrets not taking ..."?
- She and her work have--> Just "Her work has" is clearer I think
- In 2015, Hammer presented then-Governor Rick Scott --> I think "a report" is missing
- She was also on panel --> She was also on a panel
- She has spoken --> I would write "She spoke" but then again, I'm not a native speaker
- First Lady Michelle Obama to spread awareness about climate change --> that link to Climate change education comes a bit late. Would be better to link to it right away in the Public outreach section
- inconsistencies in the date format in the sources: 14 December 2015 and 2019-02-11 and March 11, 2015
- some sources miss a retrieval date
- references 20 and 21 appear to be the same
- source 1 has the wrong date, should be 2019
I'll do more on sources tomorrow. Edwininlondon (talk) 23:08, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Neither source 2 nor 3 seems to say anything about the names and origin of her parents.
- Source 4 does not seem to support the bit about "develop Spanish outreach materials"
- Source 5 does not mention Maryland, and it doesn't seem to mention she was a teenager in 1992
- Source 8 is a dead link
- Source 9: publication date and author are missing
- Source 9 says "She left academic research to inform Latinos on her findings". Her leaving academia is not mentioned in the article. The article uses present tense "Hammer's research is focused .."
- I couldn't find in source 9 a backup for the claim "Latino populations were the most vulnerable to sea level rise".
- Source 10: the other 2 authors are missing, as well as page number, journal volume and issue. Google Scholar has it as "Bloetscher, F., Hammer, N. H., & Berry, L. (2014). How climate change will affect water utilities. Journal (American Water Works Association), 106(8), 176-192."
- Source 14 is a dead link
Other than the above sourcing issues I see no furher issues with the GA criteria. Edwininlondon (talk) 14:39, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for picking this up so quickly. I'll address a few notes tonight and continue working on it throughout the week.
- Yes, I was never yet able to find a reliable source for her birthday, but an unreliable, BLP-violating source says June 19, 1975. I believe for now, for the sake of BLP, it's best to leave it blank until a more accurate source can come up.
- Removed Hammer
Done linked those terms
- removed the hyphen
- removed redundant 2013
- One of them is 2013, though one of them is from 2015 so I added a general time period.
- Combined them into Her work
- You're right, "she spoke" would be correct there since the event was years ago.
For the source about her being a teenager in 1992, the correct source says she was 16. I removed the mitigating source that perhaps distracted from the timeline. As for early life and family related things, I can pull from sources in-or-related-to her brother Oscar's article because they go more into depth. Trillfendi (talk) 00:11, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
@Trillfendi: Just checking if you plan on working a bit more on this. Edwininlondon (talk) 22:33, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
Status query
[edit]Edwininlondon, Trillfendi, where does this nomination stand? While there were article edits in early February, it's been well over three weeks since anything has been done there, and over five weeks since a post here. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:20, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry, forgot about this. As soon as I have time in the next few days I will list the things I think still need to be done before it can pass. Not everything I mentioned above is required. Thank you for reminding us. Edwininlondon (talk) 09:39, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- Failed on sourcing. As well as the sourcing issues mentioned above, the Research section's final sentence is missing a source. It should not be hard at all to fix these issues. Happy to help. Edwininlondon (talk) 21:53, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
Unsupported statement
[edit]This article says that "Hammer made the connection that Latino populations were the most vulnerable to sea level rise compared to other populations" and it cites as support:
5 Questions: Latina Climate Scientist On Carbon Emissions Rule". NBC News. Retrieved 2019-02-11.
But the article says no such thing. All it says is:
- NBC: Why is this something you think Latinos should pay attention to?
- Hernandez Hammer: We are 60 percent more likely to visit the hospital for asthma because we are disproportionately more vulnerable. Latino children are 40 percent more likely to die from asthma. A rule that reduces the effects of pollution and works toward mitigating the impact of climate change is especially important and valuable to Latinos for the health of our community in the short term, but in the longer term, it will help us avoid the worst impact of climate change. One of every two Latinos lives in an area where clean air rules are violated.
First, while this does indicate that Hammer says Latinos are significantly affected by climate change, it does not say they are "the most" impacted. Are Latinos 60% more likely than whom to have asthma? Whites? The rest of the American population? What about blacks and Native Americans?
According to WedMD, "African-Americans are three times more likely to die of asthma than white Americans." Seems to me 300% is higher than 40%*
Second, these statistics are about clean air and asthma, while the article statement is about sea level rise, which is Ms. Hammer's area of expertise. If she has ever publicly said that latinos are the "most vulnerable" to sea level rise, then that should be cited. In the meantime, we don't want to start a fight between minority groups about who is the "most vulnerable."
2601:14A:503:64C0:14B3:800F:7700:BD90 (talk) 23:23, 5 October 2022 (UTC) User known as ileanadu but who can't log in to her account.
- Is she saying in the whole world, because if so, it would seem populations in the Pacific/Oceania are already being affected by Ocean level rise. Is she addressing only Latinos in North America? North and Central America? The whole Western Hemisphere? The Native populations in Canada and Alaska,
2601:14A:503:64C0:14B3:800F:7700:BD90 (talk) 23:31, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
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