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Is it the same as a water wheel ?[edit]

Term for water wheels of Syria and Jordan. [[User:Noisy|Noisy | Talk]] 13:34, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)

A NORIA is not a synonym for water wheel, it is a very specific type of machine that uses all the energy it receives from the flow of water to lift a portion of that water, usually to fill an aqueduct that then slopes away to deliver water elsewhere. Noria are more common in dry lands with large, fast rivers of little slope (like Syria and Jordan for example) but are found all over the world.

--Charlie

How is the water discharged ?[edit]

I understand how the water is lifted, but how is it transferred to the aqueduct?Derek Andrews 01:27, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There's a nice illustration of how the water is transferred to the aqueduct in "Bucket elevators, Persian wheels and Norias" [1]. Could we get that image or a similar illustration of how a noria works into this article? --68.0.124.33 (talk) 04:13, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Seven years later: The same thing puzzled me, for how fish wheels worked. I have revised its article to try to explain how, after finally coming to an understanding. The fish wheel baskets occasionally scoop up a salmon or other fish, and the wheel lifts it up, and the key thing is that there's a slope, a slide, towards one side of the wheel so that when the basket is aloft the fish are shunted to the side and out, to fall into a collection tank. That link [2] doesn't quite explain it out, and I don't quite understand its second picture (where are the buckets of water?) but there is something--a slide or a chute--going to the side, so it looks to me that one kind of these norias works basically the same as fish wheels, dumping water to the side above the axle of the wheel. I don't understand the other kind of noria that spills water down the middle of the waterwheel(?). --do ncr am 01:55, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tidal powered noria[edit]

Does a Norea work with the force received from tidal water? Because tides come two times a day and the magnitudes of the force are not equal during a tide. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nurul Hasan Mahmud-Scientific officer-BRRI. 117.18.224.167 (talk) 09:56, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say no, because then it would lift salt water, which is of little use for irrigation or drinking. (While large fresh-water lakes have tides, too, they are far smaller in magnitude.) Instead, electricity could be generated using tidal energy, and that could be sent to where the fresh-water needs to be lifted. At that location an electrical water pump could be used. StuRat (talk) 14:56, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looking to form a plurality...[edit]

What's the plural of noria ? The caption for the pic in this article seems to just use "noria" as the plural, while the caption on the same pic in our article on Hama, renowned for having more than one noria, uses "norias". Are both correct or does one of our articles need a fix ? StuRat (talk) 14:40, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect this is an Arabic word, so that its plural should be formed in the normal way by adding an "s". I have never come across any one mentioning a "norium", which would be the correct form is noria was a Latin neuter plural. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:28, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The consensus seems to be that the plural is "norias", so the caption in the article has been changed accordingly. StuRat (talk) 00:28, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Noria is an Arabic word. The plural in Arabic would be Nawaier. But I suspect the best alternative for english is Norias.Yazan (talk) 09:46, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Removed illustration[edit]

Noria is a Spanish word descended from Arabic. Norias were plentiful in Spain and a few are still working. I have removed the illustration with an explanation of how a particular noria in Aranjuez, Spain, works because it is confusing and not quite relevant as it pertains to a modern design, not a traditional design. GS3 (talk) 14:56, 20 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Too bad. Indians have their own, modern norias and saqiyas, as do the Egyptians, and they have no problem with presenting their versions as relevant, and I tend to agree. See http://akvopedia.org/wiki/Scoop_wheels_%28Sakia,_Tympanum_or_Tablia%29. There is no obligation to restrain ourselves to history. I'd say, as long as the caption is clear, definitely put the pic back in! In my opinion, the more info WP can offer (once it's neatly organised), the more useful it is. Just make sure that the more relevant noria is better visible than the special case.Arminden (talk) 20:18, 7 May 2015 (UTC)Arminden[reply]