Talk:One of Us (Joan Osborne song)
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A version by Alanis?
[edit]After doing some extensive research, i've found no reputable site listing a cover of this song by Alanis Morissette. Examples of places i searched include Amazon.com track listings for Alanis' CDs. I further checked out several songs off of Limewire, both claiming to be Alanis Morissette and Joan Osborne. There was absolutely no difference between the two songs. Although there are two seperate versions of the song, one with the "heavenly airplane" intro and one without, the song itself is exactly the same. I'd guess that one was a single version, wheras the other was the album version. I've concluded that Alanis has been misatributed as having done a cover of this song (and occasionally as the original author). Probably this is due to the huge success of Jagged Little Pill, and the fact that One of Us came out the same year, not to mention the fact that the song sounds like one that Alanis might have sung. I've changed the article to reflect this. Of course, if someone does have conclusive proof that Alanis has covered this song, change it back. Ignus 00:59, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
if it is misattributed, then that should get a mention just because of the sheer number of GHITS that do attribute the song to her. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.26.101.29 (talk) 13:14, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
This helpful piece of info used to be mentioned in the article, actually. But then someone vandalised it back in December 2006, and another person removed the modified paragraph rather than revert the change. I put it back. 89.78.116.22 (talk) 11:09, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Heavenly Airplane
[edit]Lomax recorded Nell Hampton singing that song sometime between the 1950s to 1970s. It is much older, however, and originally credited to J. S. McConnell. See http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=25735.
one of us was used in an episode of tv-show Cold Case
Critical
[edit]What makes this song "Christian"? Being religious is not equal to being Christian. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.191.175.206 (talk) 21:03, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
Why is this song in the category "critical of religion"? Is there a citation to reference Osborne of this? (After all, this is an encyclopedia). There doesn't seem to be anything "critical" in the lyrics of the song. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.78.105.239 (talk) 20:50, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- I agree. I see nothing wrong with the song's lyrics.--71.190.91.208 (talk) 21:26, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
I agree that describing this song as either "Christian" or "critical of religion" represents an interpretation rather than a factual or descriptive. It certainly does not belong to the genre "Christian rock." I think it could be factually described as "playfully irreverent of religious doctrine." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.160.250.234 (talk) 06:03, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
The songs words fall well within the beliefs of a number of Christian sects and thinkers. I can find examples if you like. It is a diverse set of religions. I'd also recommend looking up Phil Och's song "Crucifixion" - it was inspired in response to the JFK assassination (regarding the attitudes of the crowd), but I don't think anyone can deny that it is a piece with deeply Christian content from a man who was very much influenced by Roman Catholicism (if critical of Church positions). --Hrimpurstala (talk) 04:02, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
This is certainly a Christian song. Martin Luther wrote (translated from Finnish from 1949 book "Lohdutussanojan elämän taisteluissa"): If you try to seek God in his greatness, you will find nothing but desperation for yourself. We must seek God from the crib and from the cross; this is the basis of theology. In Christian-, and at least, in Lutheran theology, which I know best, Jesus Christ is God and a man - "one of us". It is rather obvious that this song supports that kind of thoughts about God, against those who thinks that God can be approached and worshipped in his greatness. That would explain the lines from the old gospel song in the beginning of the song's album version.-- Finnish 62.113.188.111 (talk) 21:25, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
Genre
[edit]This is country rock? I would just call it rock. I don't hear any country at all. Jablomih (talk) 21:49, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Or call it pop - that covers most things ! -- Beardo (talk) 04:22, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Parodies
[edit]What if God Smoked Cannabis, the most obvious parody, is not mentioned in that section. In fact, no parodies are. 76.77.77.60 (talk) 19:23, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
There was an improper rollback of my question here, but I answered it myself. This version is by Joan herself, but written by Bob Rivers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Rivers#KISW_Twisted_Radio — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.122.51.212 (talk) 19:54, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
Enoch and Elijah
[edit]I think that theologically, this song is related to the story of Enoch and Elijah. Religion teaches that Enoch and Elijah never died, and are among us today, perhaps not very far. The closest possible comparison to this is the story of Count Saint Germain, who was said to be a re-incarnation of Enoch. Now, Enoch is supposed to be the super-Archangel Metatron, who some in apocrypha have tied to the divine hypostasis of the Holy Spirit. ADM (talk) 18:43, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
=Personnel
[edit]Shouldn't the list of performers on the track be listed for track 6?
Joan Osborne – vocals, percussion, acoustic guitar Eric Bazilian – guitar, mandolin, chant, saxophone, harmonica, electric piano Mark Egan – bass Rob Hyman – piano, organ, synthesizer, Mellotron, backing vocals, drums on 6 Andy Kravitz – drums, percussion [edit]Additional personnel Rick DiFonzo – acoustic guitar on 2 8 Sammy Merendino – drums on 2 9, rhythm collage on 7 8 Chris Palmaro – electric piano on 2 8, organ on 7, virtual fiddle on 8, Mellotron on 8 9 William Wittman – electric guitar on 2, guitar on 7 Rick Chertoff – percussion on 3 5 Leo Osborne – backing vocals on 3 Lee Campbell – actual fiddle on 8 Omar Hakim – drums on 8 Gary Lucas – guitar on 8 9 Wade Schurman – harmonica on 8 9 Catherine Russell – backing vocals on 8 12.171.166.8 (talk) 15:43, 14 December 2010 (UTC) [edit]
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