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On 4 February 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Patrol vessel. The result of the discussion was not moved.

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Article reassessed and graded as start class. --dashiellx (talk) 20:12, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

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The result of the move request was no consensus. @harej 20:50, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Patrol boat → Patrol vessel — - Proposed name is more inclusive since vessel can include ship classes that are styled as "boats" and those styled as "ships". Note that the most-populated category that includes patrol craft is Category:Patrol vessels, and that Category:Patrol boats is a sub-category of it. Note also, that this name will parallel the naming styles used in Category:Mine warfare vessels and Category:Amphibious warfare vessels. (Redirect with history prevented me from making the move without discussion.) — Bellhalla (talk) 16:49, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose on grounds of usage and conciseness. What's wrong with Minesweeper and Landing boat? Septentrionalis PMAnderson 00:28, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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I didn't have the opportunity to reply to PMAnderson's comment before the "no consensus" close. So, there's nothing wrong with the phrase "patrol boat" if you are discussing only Motor Torpedo Boats or patrol yachts. However, when discussing a modern corvettes or frigates (as opposed to the sail versions of either), you are dealing with types that most people would class as ships and not boats.

As for the other pair cited in support, those are great names. But, please note, that "mine warfare vessels" refers to minelayers, minehunters, and mine countermeasures vessels, in addition to minesweepers. Similarly, "amphibious warfare vessels" refers to everything from the aforementioned landing boat to amphibious assault ships (which resemble WWII aircraft carriers in appearance and displacement). — Bellhalla (talk) 11:48, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that patrol vessel is a superior name to patrol boat. Geo Swan (talk) 08:37, 1 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Cutter" not introduced in the overview

The term "Cutter" should be mentioned in the introductory material as associated with certain types of patrol vessels, especially as a number of cutters are described later in the examples. I realize that there is a wikipedia article covering cutters in depth, I think a simple mention with a link would be acceptable. I am not an expert in this field, just came here on research and discovered the lack of association. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Twikimk (talk • contribs) 12:32, 14 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

As a courtesy to other contributors, could we discuss complicated or controversial issues on the talk page, not in our edit summaries...

A complicated excision had an inadequate explanation "updated latest class ship". I reverted it. I encourage that contributor to return here and explain their concerns more fully.

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 00:14, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 4 February 2024

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) — DaxServer (t · m · e · c) 10:25, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Patrol boat → Patrol vessel – Patrol vessel is a more common term to indicate all types of patrol ships or boats. The term boat only used for small patrol craft. There are many dedicated large and heavy ships used for patrol duty including thousand tonnes ships. Some of the ships are more than 100 meters long. The name was chnaged from Patrol vessel to Patrol boat in 2008. Nafis Fuad Ayon (talk) 01:48, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Per google trend data, "Patrol boat" seems to be more commonly used term compare to "Patrol vessel". The article also states The classification of a patrol boat is often subjective, but they are generally small naval vessels that are used to patrol national waters or a certain jurisdiction, so the argument based on "size" also not be relevant here. Ckfasdf (talk) 07:45, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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