Talk:Peter Novopashenny

Please be patient, being translated from German Russian article. Scope creep (talk) 16:28, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

German-Russian Treaty of Helskinki

This man seems to be part of the called Hangö Agreement. Couldn't find anything on Wikipedia, or Google Books, so creating article request. Information below came from Pauli Kruhse, @ http://www.histdoc.net/, a Finnish Historian.

The Hangö Agreement is documented here: http://www.histdoc.net/history/ru/baltflot.html . I took it from the book: Балтийские моряки в борьбе за власть советов. ”Наука”, Ленинград, 1968. (The sailors of the Baltic Fleet in fighting for the Soviet power, "Nauka" Publishing House, 1968.) , which refers to ЦГАВМФ, Central State Archive for the Navy; now, says Google: Российский государственный архив военно-морского флота (РГА ВМФ) = Russian State Archive for the Navy. The agreement is a certified copy there, the book says.

The text says nothing else than that they (Novopaschenny et al.) were authorized (probably by some Revolutionary Committee in Helsinki) and that he, член комиссии капитан 1-го ранга Новопашенный, gave his word of honour. It should be mentioned that the local Soviets in Helsinki were dominated by Socialist-Revolutionaries and anarchists, not that much by the Bolsheviks. Even though the Bolshevik Government in Petrograd had on December 31, 1917, recognized the Finnish independence and the Brest-Litowsk Treaty later (March 3) forbade Russians to intervene in the internal matters of Finland, those Soviets had far reaching plans to continue their existence in Finland ( http://www.histdoc.net/pic/Sotsialist-revoljutsioner29.1.1918.jpg ).

It is very understandable that those officers in the Russian Army, who were not sympathisers of the Bolsheviks and who had the opportunity the flee the country, did so. The fate of his fellow officers right in the very beginning the February revolution, when both the heads of Kronstadt Naval Port, admiral Wiren (btw, of Finnish ancestry) and that of the Sveaborg Naval Port, vice-admiral Nepenin (grave at Helsinki Orthodox Cemetary), were with other officers brutally killed, many right in the streets of Helsinki to the horror of civilian population.

Scope creep (talk) 23:29, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Additional comments received by Pauli Kruhse.

About the Hangö Agreement. In Finnish, this encounter is described here http://www.helsinki.fi/~jjeerola/englssopven.htm by Jari Eerola (the page seems being dated 2006). I learned this only after creating my own web document on the same agreement. I had bought the book of 1968 much earlier than I started my Finnish history pages in 1994. Even though I don't command the Russian language, just by leafing through the book then in a bookstore (they had for some reason put it on display!), I noticed some prospective candidates for acquainting myself later on the documents in the book. The Hangö Agreement was one of those. The agreement, in connection with the Brest-Litowsk Treaty, was pivotal in leaving the Reds in Finland to their own devices. The Bolsheviks had no other choice but to do this. Of course, individual fighters up to the deputy commander of the Red Guards in Finland, the Bolshevik appointed commander of the Russian remaining troops in Finland Col. Svechnikov (excerpt in Russian: http://www.histdoc.net/history/ru/M.S.Svechnikov1923.htm ), were fighting on the Red side, and the Russians supplied the small and medium-size arms for the Red Guard. So did the Petrograd governments, too, even after the B-L Peace Treaty, "interpreting" that sending arms is not intervening in the internal matters of Finland. The agreement (the Russian text from the Finnish sources: http:/www.histdoc.net/history/ru/rabo.html) between the socialist republics of Finland (i.e. the Reds who had seized power in southern Finland) and Russia was signed two days earlier then the B-L- Treaty.

Scope creep (talk) 14:58, 24 August 2016 (UTC)