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Redundant much?

Phentermine, a contraction of "phenyl-tertiary-butylamine", is an appetite suppressant of the amphetamine and phenethylamine class.

Amphetamine is *already* in the Phenethylamine class. Is there some necessary reason to list phenethylamine as well? 108.82.92.60 (talk) 05:15, 19 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I completely agree. Agenda here? MKidd9221 (talk) 05:45, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Considering that this wording has not been in the article for more than a year, I don't think there is cause for current concern. -- Ed (Edgar181) 14:20, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Adiphene is not anymore another name to say Phentermine but it is another product that doesn't contain Phentermine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Capitanoensy (talk • contribs) 17:10, 7 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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I've restored the contraction clause since there's no reason to move it down. I'll restore it again if it's removed again. Same goes for the statement about its chemical classification and structure. Seppi333 (Insert 2¢) 11:41, 21 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This is overly complicated and does not belong in the first sentence. "(phenyl-tertiary-butyl amine)"

Plus no reference is provided. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 04:39, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Overly complicated how? It's a name. But more importantly, it's the full name, not an alternate name. It belongs right where it is: after the very first word in the lead. Moving it down is no different than moving attention deficit hyperactivity disorder to ADHD and, replacing every instance of "attention deficit hyperactivity disorder" with "ADHD" in that article, and then creating a "Names" section at the very end where you specify that "ADHD" actually is an abbreviation of something. That's just as dumb as what you're trying to do here: "ADHD" and "phentermine" are just names, but so are the overly complicated phrases "attention deficit hyperactivity disorder" and "phenyl-tertiary-butylamine".

If an article title reflects a contraction, acronym, or abbreviation of something, then it needs to be stated upfront, not in the infobox and definitely not in the last section of the entire article. Seppi333 (Insert 2¢) 08:14, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

If you want a reference, go to the drugbox pubchem link. It lists pretty much every remotely notable name for compounds. Seppi333 (Insert 2¢) 08:18, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

With respect to the name "phenyl-tertiary-butyl amine" it is not commonly use. Very rare names such as this belong in the infobox and body of the article.

Phentermine is its INN and thus its formal name.

It is thus different than "attention deficit hyperactivity disorder" which is commonly used and is the formal name. Doc James (talk · contribs · email)

A google Ngram does not even find the term phenyl tertiary butylamine.[1]
This is the Ngram for ADHD[2]

Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 17:32, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

- Also Phentermine gets 9.2 million hits on google.[3]
- "phenyl-tertiary-butylamine" gets 78 hits.
- Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 18:33, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Details

Sure we now have a source that says it is a "substituted amphetamine". These extra details "which has a methyl group on amphetamine's alpha carbon" are fine in the body. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 17:22, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

{{confusing}} tag

I explained the {{confusing}} tag in the edit summary, but some might not know how to find it, so I'll paste what I wrote there here as the template directs Wikipedians to look at talk pages.

The lead states that weight loss stops after a few weeks. § "Medical use" states that it continues to occur "through the ninth month". Which is it?

Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) ^{please always ping!} 04:36, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]