Talk:Pileus (hat)

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Albanian connection?[edit]

Is there any connection with the Albanian plis? HairyDan 21:51, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

I think it is very safe to connect the albanian plis with the roman pileus. It should say something about this in the article. --Durim Durimi (talk) 22:43, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Good call! How's that for a start?--Wetman (talk) 00:48, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

The fact that the Albanian plis is still today used by many Albanians while it is unknown for a common Greek is not a coincidence. Thus, I don't understand why Albanian heritage should be ignored. Not everything ancient in the Balkans is Greek. Arben Kita —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.73.199.89 (talk) 11:31, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

No, it only means that the Greeks got westernised and abandoned their traditional clothings. Don't judge with your strictly nationalistic POV. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.58.136.63 (talk) 15:08, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

The meaning of qeleshe.[edit]

As it says in the article. The freed slaves got their heads shaved before they put on the plis/qeleshe. My understanding of the word qeleshe is a a mixture between the albanian word for bald and the albanian word for wool. Qel meaning bald and lesh meaning wool.

I know for a fact that some albanians always shaved their heads, these albanians also wore the pileus/qeleshe as seen in the pictures below.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=401647824663678278&ei=7D8qSrCsGZzQ2wLaqf2vCQ&q=albania&emb=1

--Durim Durimi (talk) 20:08, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Why should the part of the albanian heritage be left out of this article?[edit]

It would be a shame if an article about the pileus didnt mention its only modern day remnant.

Leaving out the albanian part is a big mistake. What do you think?--Durim Durimi (talk) 20:29, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Pileus vs Phrygian cap[edit]

Phrygian cap indicates that the two are different things but the articles on Pileus indicates they are two names for the same thing. We should be consistent. -- Beardo (talk) 04:23, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Check this one out, to bad is just in Romanian: http://daco-getica.blogspot.com/2011/01/boneta-frigiana-scitica-persana-vs.html --Codrin.B (talk) 01:45, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

liberty cap[edit]

is it a coincidence that Illyrian in albanian is The free people .. Illyria is to be free in albanian? with this in mind, the plis is a simble of liberty, "liberty cap" as mentioned in the article. so connecting the two, illyrian cap in albanian means liberty cap. coincidence or not, the two go together real good even when adding modern day albanian language, and the fact that albanians still use the plis today. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.107.247.98 (talk) 10:24, 20 October 2012 (UTC)