Talk:Prince Charles Alexander of Lorraine
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Would anyone object to moving this to Prince Charles of Lorraine, since there have been numerous notable Charleses of Lorraine (and even numerous notable Charleses of Lorraine who were Austrian military commanders!)? john k 05:43, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- OK with me. But are you sure that none of those other Charleses are princes? An other alternative would be Charles of Lorraine (1712-1780). Eugene van der Pijll 11:52, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Moved to Prince Charles Alexander of Lorraine. He was never ruler of Lorraine, therefore princely title is added per Wikipedia naming convention. Gryffindor 01:15, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
- I don't understand: because he never was a prince we include prince into his name, cluttering the article title?
- All the reigning members of the house of Lorraine have Duke of Lorraine in their title, he doesn't. That should have been enough.Str1977 (smile back) 08:34, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
- You mean he was not a prince? What title did he have then? Gryffindor 18:38, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
To answer Str1977: YES, he was a prince. As a son of Leopold,_Duke_of_Lorraine, Charles Alexander was Prince of Lorraine from birth. He doesn't have Duke of Lorraine in [sic] his title because he never reigned over Lorraine (having 4 older brothers generally prevents that).
With events including his brother François Stephen de Lorraine (Francis I, Holy Roman Emperor) taking the throne of the Holy Roman Empire and relinquishing the duchy Lorraine, the ducal title to the somewhat ambiguously ruled Lorraine passed to France, back to Charles nominally for a brief time, and back to France temporarily in 1766—all of which was later made moot by the French Revolution of 1789.
Mein Gott! Would someone be kind enough to translate that in English?