Talk:Ralph Wiggum

2009 complete overhaul of article

I haven't touched wikipedia in years, and this probably won't change. But I originally wrote this article, and with some time I had recently I kind of really wanted to clean it up. Focused the tone more and consolidated the references (and cited almost everything I could. Pain. in. the. ass. But necessary I understand.), and added a few things that I think are relevant. He's still my favorite character and I thought I might as well just finally do it in time for the 20th anniversary. Awesome ralph deserves an awesome wiki. I'm sure I've probably gotten some aspect of the citations wrong, but I did my best. I'll leave it at that. Kiyosuki (talk) 00:48, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Also, I added back the bart to the future screenshot with added relevance (in two ways) to the material in the article, didn't want to lose the orphaned shot. though I'm thinking I may replace it with something more informative later.

I'm impressed, that's a very good job for someone who hasn't touched the site in years. Too bad you won't be sticking around. It could use a bit of expanding and I'll see what I can do over the holidays. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 00:55, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Indeed, impressive to say the least, certainly a shame you won't be sticking around. Gran² 07:37, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Misquote

Ralph did not say "i sleep in a drawer," it was actually said by Kearny's son. Deleted accordingly.

His first appearance

This has been changed a lot, but officially and even according to the episode's wiki, Moaning Lisa is Ralph's first official appearance in the series. He's very different looking and sounding, he doesn't pick up his updated look and trademark mannerisms until subsequent seasons (I say the third perhaps.) but he's definitely him officially. The casting refer's to him as Ralph here. While perhaps he did appear maybe as a background character before he was never credited as an actual character until Moaning Lisa.

Now...the series is really really long so of course I may be missing out on a few things. I have some of the older episodes but ofcourse I may have missed something. But I'm pretty positive that he didn't appear in the very first episode (Simpsons roasting on an open fire.) Until then, since almost every source including Thats Unpossible states that Moaning was his first appearance, lets just keep it at that.--68.233.141.149 21:55, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

he was a santa in the 1st episode 71.29.20.96 05:56, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Wouldn't that make him an adult though? I distinctively remember the Santa's were all adults. Uhg...I have to find that episode. But even if he does appear there, Moaning Lisa is the first episode where he is actually credited as a character. One thing about first appearances is the character has to be more than just a background character. He has to specifically be "Ralph" in an episode or else he's just background furnature and Moaning Lisa is the first episode where he's credited. Ralph looked really generic at first before becoming the little spud we all know and love, so it wouldn't surprise me if maybe this "santa" was just a character that happened to look like his earlier incarnation. If one wants to get really technical, I'd say Ralph's true first appearance was in the second season. Thats where he got his voice, attitude, and look that made him the Ralph we all know now. But yeah, officially his first credited appearance is Moaning Lisa. (I'm user 68.233.141..uhg etc by the way)--Kiyosuki 10:43, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

he was a santa in the play (the one with eyes in the back of his head

Your right he was the Japanese priest who acted like Santa Claus and had eyes on the back of his head. Does that count?

Of course that counts. Butt everytime someone changes it back into Moaning Lisa. -- Cyberspace 12:23, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

I personally think his first appearance was definitely the Christmas episode. That character looks and acts so much like him its ridiculous. However, you have to understand that at that time the character was just a background character. He had no name yet, until Moaning Lisa. Its a technicality yes, but its one the writers themselves back up so until then its Moaning Lisa. Technically some may even point out his first appearance was 5th Amendment becuase thats when the modern Ralph appeared. The article points all this out anyways.--76.166.144.112 20:40, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Condensing of the quotes

Okay guys, we all love Ralph's endless verbal wisdom, but maybe his quote section on this page is a bit too long. Especially when considering that there's a separate page dedicated to his quotes specifically. I suggest that we copy and past the list as it is now and put it there (replace it actually...since this list has everything that list has and more), and choose a handful of Ralph's best lines to feature here on his profile. What do you guys think?

I won't do anything yet. If we do choose some of his best we should suggest and talk about it here. "It tastes like burning" and its setup I suggest should be kept on here. Its too classic and ...just plain hilarious not to be featured.--Kiyosuki 19:13, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

I agree, it is too long --06:57, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Miss hover

should we put in that whenever ralph asks miss hover anything she ignores it or also when thay doing a party for Skinner ralph put his hand up but she chooses Lisa and Ralph says "No Miss. Hover, I'm Ralph."

Mmmm...this was a bit tough to read. But on the question...I don't think so. Its not necessary.--Kiyosuki 13:14, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Copy editing

I'll do what I can in time....I have quite a few other things I'm working on as well.--Kiyosuki 08:54, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Although it does need some copy editing, I thought I would say it's a pretty good article. -- Ari 06:07, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. Well its done, I did what I could. If there's anything grammar or spelling wise left unchecked...feel free to change it.--Kiyosuki 07:53, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Qwotes [sic]

I removed (sic) from some of the quotes, as I felt they were not needed. However, they might have been correctly placed, so if anybody feels the need, put them back. Remember, though, that [sic] uses brackets, not parentheses. PrometheusX303 19:49, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Bloodhound gang

Should the song dedicated to Ralph be mentioned?

Informal language

This article seems to use a lot of informal language and personal opinions. E.g. "rather interesting personality and his hilarious commentary" and "While Bart is at first less than thrilled with this, he genuinely has a good time with Ralph during their time together, eventually learning a thing or two about him in the process." Maybe some work needs to be done? George C 17:48, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Hair

No offense to whoever wrote the info box about Ralph, but his hair really isn't wavy. Anynobody 11:34, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Personally I think its blonde. I think the lines are an artistic use of silhouette and contour line art, in other words the lines just outline his hair shape since his skin is yellow too. Kind of like how Bart and Lisa's hair is a shape. At least I believe that was the intention in the beginning. There's even one issue of the comic where a lot of characters are drawn in an alternate "realistic" style and Ralph is blonde with a bowl cut. I'm not gonna change it for this though, I don't think its that important. --76.166.144.112 20:15, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

-- In The Simpson's Spin-Off Showcase, Clancy describes Ralph as having "thinning hair."Adiosmofo (talk) 15:10, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

new photo Ralph

The picture that put she is from capturing of video and I know that this is legal.

Ralph's sexuality

I don't know, but he has hinted to be somewhat gay. Listen, you'll need Quicktime and an audio device to hear this. Aixduran 14:26, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

SPOILERS: In the movie, after seeing Bart naked, Ralph declares "I like men now!"~Zythe^{Talk to me!} 22:59, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

We could add that but with a spoiler warning.125.60.243.4 14:33, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

It was a one-off line, you know and really doesn't deserve mention in the article. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 02:01, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Sure right now it might be one off. But i wouldn't say that it truely is yet. Wait till the new season of the Simpsons. They do something about it.

You guys....it was throwaway line. He's 8 years old. I still can't believe some people actually take that line that seriously. By that same logic, there must be a Bovine University out there too literally right? Just think about the character, a dense and odd little 8 year old boy trying to interpret a crazy adult world. Non-sequitors are one of his traits. Seriously...the line means nothing. There are some things to the character worth looking into as the article points out, and this just isn't one of them. Its like looking into his "tastes like Grandma" line as a sign that he's a cannibal. If they do follow up on it for some reason then maybe we can give it thought, but I doubt they will. --76.166.144.112 20:11, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Asperger syndrome

Could Ralph have Asperger syndrome, a form of autism which inhibits social skills?

Great question. Previously there were musings along these lines (later removed - rightfully so, I begrudgingly admit - by Scorpion0422). Surely sources exist, what with the rise in prominence of Asperger's in the collective conscious (e.g., the popularity of Look Me in the Eye), right? For the record, Ralph isn't even mentioned in the index of The Simpsons and Philosophy. - Boozinf (talk) 00:22, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

He doesn't have problems with Social skills, he's mentally challenged. --Τασουλα (Shalom!) (talk) 22:31, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

It could be social skills actually. At least that's how the character began all that time ago, but even nowadays the show and its material goes back and fourth on it. He's like a bizzare pastiche of all sorts of things. Sometimes he may have something like Aspergers or Autism, sometimes he was dropped on his head, sometimes he's just plain insane, and sometimes he's like he initially was...just different and awkward. I've come to the conclusion that various writers basically just do whatever they want with him at the time, as long as he's "differet". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.229.126.29 (talk) 23:17, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Ralph's figure

Do you think that we should put in his condition of obesity which is something he got from his parents? 125.60.243.4 08:59, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Clancy is a heavy guy, and Sarah's pretty beefy herself. Its just design consistency I guess, but a lot of Springfield isn't in great shape, although the Wiggums seem to be just a naturally husky family too. I don't think its necessary to draw attention to his figure really, its not a defining characteristic.--76.166.144.112 20:07, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Ralph in for President crap

Everyone keep an eye on the page and watch for people who add "Ralph Wiggum in 08" or crap like that. Maybe a couple sentences about the episode, but for now revert any propaganda or large sections. If this actually becomes something notable, then it might warrant extended mention. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 01:53, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I was keeping an eye out for it last night and was surprised when I didn't see anything. Still, it undoubtedly will come eventually. I also watch Dennis Kucinich, and was just as surprised that no mention was made of the scene in Moe's from last night's episode. By the way, that was the worst episode I've seen...maybe ever. At least the worst of the past three or four years, I'd say. Disappointing that an episode about one of my favorite characters was so poorly executed. Oh well. faithless (^speak) 17:00, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

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Wiggum relationship origins

Hi there,

The article states Ralph's relationship to Chief Wiggum becomes canon in the episode titled "I Love Lisa," but Lisa actually calls him "Wiggum" when she's passing out letters/packages in "Kamp Krusty," the first episode of season 4. I can't find a source online that corroborates but I feel like it should be clarified. That's the first time we know he's related to Chief Wiggum. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.46.61.130 (talk) 14:37, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

"Taciturn"??

I already see a request for clarification by this word; I am pretty sure that this is not what was intended by the person describing Ralph. Perhaps "wise" or "thoughtful" would be better? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.37.99.86 (talk) 11:38, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Added OR template

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Clarification needed

questioning a film production staff member over the use of a painted cow over a horse: What does this sentence mean? If you use a cow over horse, what are you actually doing? Koro Neil (talk) 08:37, 30 April 2021 (UTC)