Talk:Red Orchestra (espionage)

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Just to identify the players: V. E. Tarrant's Red Orchestra (New York : John Wiley & Sons, 1996) names the prosecuter as Doktor Manfred Roeder of Oberstgerischtsrat, Air Region 3, nicknamed "Hitler's Bloodhound"; the Pres of the Reichskriegsgericht that approved the prosecution brief as Adm Max Bastian, KM; & the defense counsel as Drn Kurt Valentin, Rudolf Behse, Henz Bergman, & Bernhard Schwarz; the trial began 14 Dec 1942 in Berlin.

For what it's worth, Sûreté dubbed Sov agent Isaiah Bir "Phantomas" for his ability to disappear. Leopold Tripper, GRU Illegals Rezident for Western Europe in WW2, co-founded a company to export trenchcoats. (Dagger optional?) Trekphiler 14:08, 22 December 2005 (UTC)


I think the article needs a section of the commonly mentioned stories (myths?) that surround the Red Orchestra. As the article now stands, there's not a word of 'Werther', supposed to be a source in the highest echelons of Wehrmacht sending stream of highly accurate intelligence to the USSR through 'Lucy' in Switzerland. The true identity of 'Werther' is often mentioned as the greatest unsolved mystery of the WWII, opening door to much speculation. Even, or rather if, the whole story is a myth, it should be mentioned in this article. - Mikko H. 10:17, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Werther was actually a code-word that Lieutenant-General Thiele used in the begining of every message containing information about the German Army, not a person. SamWhitey (talk) 22:48, 9 January 2008 (UTC)


I wrote in the german article about the red orchestra, and was a little proud of it. But now I see, the english article is even better. Please tell me - where did you get the information - especially about the Shulze-Boysen/Harnack group? Shug 20:57, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

The Trenchcoat Company[edit]

The Trench coat company mentioned above was called The Foreign Excellent Trenchcoat Company. Source: -The Great Game by Leopold Trepper. SamWhitey (talk) 20:46, 9 January 2008 (UTC)


Should there be a list of the members? SamWhitey (talk) 20:51, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Computer Game[edit]

Is anyone else of the opinion that the computer game should be in a different article? Especially because the game has an article already. SamWhitey (talk) 21:25, 9 January 2008 (UTC)