Talk:Robbie Rogers

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Historical context vs Jason Collins

I noticed that Beland (talk · contribs) made this edit, which added that Rogers's coming out came 2 months before Jason Collins's. To me, that's not significant, because Rogers declared himself away from the game when he came out, and Leeds had just released him so he wasn't on a team. What made Jason Collins's announcement significant was that he was still technically on a team (although the season had ended and he was a pending free agent), and he stated his intention to continue playing. It gets complicated because Rogers came back, but at the time, he was more like David Testo or John Amaechi, guys who were out of the game when they came out.

I'm going to undo the edit, but I can see why it was made, and I'm happy to discuss it. --Mosmof (talk) 05:55, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Mmm, well it might actually make sense to explain the differences in the article. I'm not a sports fan so I haven't followed all the ins and outs. Both players are getting lots of press for their coming outs, and there are "firsts" claimed for each; hopefully their respective bios can just tell the facts without only covering the specific "first" that athlete is known for or saying which is more important. It would also be nice to have some historical context, since these athletes are not coming out in a vacuum. This event seems to be part of a trend sweeping through the most popular leagues at the moment. It might be appropriate to have a new article to explain all this; we have List of lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender sportspeople but that simple list doesn't explain who the pioneers were or what ground they were breaking. That seems like an important part of LGBT history. -- Beland (talk) 06:19, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I added the bit about Collins seeking Rogers' advice in the personal section, and the playing career section has a quote from Collins. I think that's sufficient in communicating the connection between the two, though YMMV, obviously. --Mosmof (talk) 16:13, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

London College of Fashion

I was told to see this page, though, not sure where/how to post....having read Robbie's book- he applied to fashion school in London, but never got in. He interned at a fashion company in London- maybe that's what you were thinking. Can't think of a better source than the man's own book- maybe you all should read it....you should probably change this on his page- I tried, but I keep getting slapped by you guys! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aagold76 (talk • contribs) 15:59, 28 January 2015‎

I posted the same thing on your talk page, but I did a Google search and almost every source (including interviews) says he was accepted to the program, with a few saying he took classes there.

Can you quote the passage of the book that says he wasn't accepted? Mosmof (talk) 17:07, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

well- according to his own book- which he wrote- HE DIDN'T ATTEND OR GET ACCEPTED THERE. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aagold76 (talk • contribs) 20:55, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Did you see the part where I asked you to quote the passage of the book that says he wasn't accepted? I ask because it seems to contradict pretty much everything that's been reported, so it would be nice to know why all these media outlets got this simple fact wrong - when he tells AskMen, "I... was accepted in the College of Fashion", was he lying? Mosmof (talk) 21:05, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Undefined refs

@Pace2Pace: you inserted a few refs to this page with no definition. Could you please fill those in with your intended sources? Thanks! -- Fyrael (talk) 16:51, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]