Talk:Robert April

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Canon[edit]

Who's deciding what's canon, Paramount or fans? April was 1st CO Enterprise based on Gene's work (as reported in Whitfield's Making of ST); does Paramount get to obviate that? Not while I'm alive. --trekphiler, 21/11/05
The owner of a franchise, which in this case is Paramount, decides which elements and derivative works are canonical. Primogen (talk) 20:47, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Image[edit]

What is the source of the image used in the page? - CHAIRBOY () 18:27, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Very good question. It's tagged as a television screenshot, but the article mentions "For example, he is listed in the Chronology as the first captain of the Enterprise, accompanied by a photo of the creator of Star Trek Gene Roddenberry, sitting on a captain's chair wearing a Starfleet uniform, and is listed as such on the official Star Trek website." Perhaps the image is from the Chronology or website mentioned here? Bryan 06:38, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
The image is indeed of Roddenberry, and to my knowledge first appeared in the Star Trek: Chronology in connection with April. One of the Okudas' many "in-jokes" in that book. --TimPendragon 02:44, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Dead link?[edit]

is the first link at the bottom of the page dead? sometimes my computer screws up so i want to be sure

Image[edit]

I'm uncomfortable with using the image of Roddenberry for this article. First, it was put into the Chronology as an in-joke, and the fact is Roddenberry never played April and I don't even think he ever posed for a photo in a Starfleet uniform either (I believe the image was photoshopped). This therefore makes the image misleading. The image that should be used for this article is a screen capture from the episode as that's the character's only, to date, screen appearance. 23skidoo (talk) 20:09, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Is it canon? The only other picture would be a screen grab from The Animated Series Alastairward (talk) 19:20, 15 April 2008 (UTC
I know this is two years too late, but I'm gonna go ahead and give my 2 cents for future reference: I have a copy of the Star Trek encyclopedia that Michael and Denise Okuda wrote (they've both worked in production and the like with the Star Trek franchise), and the encyclopedia says that the photo is a test shot, not a spoof. --- cymru lass (hit me up)(background check) 19:28, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Robert April[edit]

The character's only appearance is in the Star Trek: The Animated Series episode "The Counter-Clock Incident"



However, the decision by Paramount Pictures, studio owners of the franchise, and series creator Gene Roddenberry to not consider the animated series to be part of the official Star Trek canon has led to debate as to whether April and his place as first captain, is actually a part of Star Trek continuity.


In short, that might have been his only TV/MOVIE appearance, but it's not his only appearance in the ST timeline.

"Finak Fronteer", a book about the first unofficial voyage of the Enterprise, list him as the CAPTAIN, with George Kirk (James Kirk's father) as security officer on that voyage.

Robert April also appears in a number of other books, including "Flag full of stars".

Considering that they are ST books, and paramount owns to franchise, these books should be considered official due to Paramount's approval of their writing.

As such, I'm editing the entry o include such.


75.7.251.235 (talk) 09:52, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

"Finak Fronteer"? Is that the actual spelling?

Contradiction[edit]

In one place the article states that Roddenberry pitched the character with the middle initial "T" ('...his name for the starship commander was "Robert T. April"...'). In the very next section, the article states that the writers of the animated series changed the initial to "...T and not M as in Roddenberry's original proposal." That's a contradiction. Which version is correct? They can't both be. 71.200.138.188 (talk) 16:52, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Further Contradiction[edit]

Whether or not Captain April (or was it A-bril, from the original Arabic,)was the first captain, is moot. For fans, what should be more of a ponderence is whether Cap't. April commanded the ENTERPRISE NCC-1700 ("Constitution"-class) starship? In "Star Trek: The Search for Spock", Admiral Brooks argues with the soon-to-be-"busted down" Admiral Kirk that "Jim, the Enterprise is over twenty-years old; she's seen her last hey-dey". Adding to Kirk's first command, with the intervening years, and Captain Christopher Pike's earlier tenure, there would be no room, time-wise to account for April's presence. And in "The Cage\Menagerie" Lt.(?) enthusiatically states to the "castaways" "...and you won't believe how fast you can get back (home); the time barrier's been broken. Why, our new ships can...." Thus stating that the Enterprise, commanded by Chris Pike, was a new model, constructed outside the time frame that supposedly April commandeered. So, it appears that April, and his Chief Medical Officer\Wife were in stewardship of an ealier model-classed starship named Enterprise. It has been demostrated by Gene, and later others using a early sketch model (a less elegant one, indeed) of the vessel. We can comfortably suppose this was the ship that April commanded in that earlier era --65.88.88.12 (talk) 22:14, 25 May 2011 (UTC)Veryverser

Where do you get this "A-bril" and this supposed "original Arabic"???
Also, the Enterprise was NCC-1701, not NCC-1700 (which would be the USS Constitution, the first of the class series, thus the ship that gave its name to the class which includes the Enterprise). The next Enterprise (NCC-1701A) is launched shortly after the events in "The Search for Spock" (at the end of "The Voyage Home") in 2286, some 40 years after NCC-1701 launched (early 2240s), which isn't exactly contradicted by the "over 20 years old" since 40 is still over 20. As for "The Cage" statement you quoted, that has been repeatedly been superseded by just about all Trek that occurred after that rejected (and unaired until 1988) pilot (including the name of the technology, "The Cage" called it 'Time Warp' as well as 'Hyperdrive'). In just about all Trek except "The Cage", warp 1 (which is what is being referred to) was broken about 200 years before Kirk's tenure. Not to mention, the castaways had been lost for 18 years, so even if warp drive was invented since they were lost, there would still be plenty of room for April to have had a time as the first captain of the Enterprise (the events of "The Cage" occur near the beginning of Pike's term, some 13 years earlier according to "The Menagerie", which has to be about 11 years before Kirk took command since Spock served under Pike a little over 11 years).
This is all boiled down giving only bare details to refute your claims and prevent editors from taking it seriously, this isn't the place for details as this is not a forum. Please don't confuse those who may edit this article with your hypothesizing. — al-Shimoni (talk) 12:49, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Notability[edit]

Except a single sentence that he was meant to be the first captain that could be merged to the pilot episode/history of Star Trek articles, I don't see anything here that would warrant a stand-alone article. Ping User:Jclemens - would you have any counter-arguments to proposed deletion? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:57, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Find sources: "Robert April" trek – news · newspapers · books · scholar · HighBeam · JSTOR · free images · free news sources · The Wikipedia Library · NYT · WP reference Well, let's see. Jclemens (talk) 05:01, 2 May 2017 (UTC)