Talk:Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Dijon
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[edit]Removed {{csb-pageincludes|1=http://www.catholicity.com/encyclopedia/d/dijon.html}}. The content is public domain. Charles Matthews 16:10, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- Apparently 1908, so yes. -- But|seriously|folks 20:32, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
History
[edit]The entire History section appears to be lifted word for word from the Catholic Dictionary, hardly an un-biased source. Furthermore this source is not cited.
The source document itself is not referenced, and depends heavily on Church tradition, which concerning this particular Saint, who may have not even existed, has been amply shown by historians to be fabricated from stitching together other saint stories from Italy.
Some of the statements made are clearly biased, such as "This controversy, however, does not alter the fact that before the 5th century a saint named Benignus was venerated by the Christians of Dijon; nor does it dim the splendour of the saint's miracles", which evokes "facts" that have no support. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:E35:2E06:77B0:FCA8:9E25:716D:EAC3 (talk) 07:54, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
See http://www.persee.fr/web/revues/home/prescript/article/crai_0065-0536_1952_num_96_2_9907
The article should at the least clarify that the stories are apocryphal and add information about genuine historical research on the subject. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:E35:2E06:77B0:FCA8:9E25:716D:EAC3 (talk) 08:00, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
Infobox flag removed
[edit]I removed the French Republic flag icon from the Infobox, in accordance with several sections of WP:ICON; specifically (quoting),
- Generally, flag icons should not be used in infoboxes, even when there is a "country", "nationality" or equivalent field: they are unnecessarily distracting and give undue prominence to one field among many....
- Flags make simple, blunt statements about nationality, while words can express the facts with more complexity. [Dijpm was not part of France for many centuries, and then it belonged to the Dukes of Burgundy, and then to the Kings of France (whose flag was a large golden fleur-de-lys on a white background), not to the French Republic. The diocese was not an integral part of the political structure of the French state, except for the decade of the French Revolution.]....
- Do not rewrite history. Flags should not be used to misrepresent the nationality of a historical figure [including some bishops], event, object, etc. Political boundaries change, often over the span of a biographical article subject's lifetime. Where ambiguity or confusion could result, it is better not to use a flag at all, and where one is genuinely needed, use the historically accurate flag.