Talk:SS Ohio

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Former good article nominee SS Ohio was a good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
May 27, 2007 Good article nominee Not listed


The original article was taken from here. I have removed most of the content to prevent copyright issues, and changed the rest. JoaoRicardo 14:15, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

At All Costs[edit]

The book At All Costs link is the wrong book, there was no page for the right book. The right book was written by Sam Moses. Noha307 20:50, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Major rebuild[edit]

I found that the previous versions did not emphasize the importance of this ship for the Maltese nation...i figured more ought to be said on this ship and the role it played in the war. Reuv 20:45, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

good article[edit]

This is not ready. It lacks a good description of the career of the ship prior to its final journey. Other material is not in date order and is thereby confusing. There is a also a touch of sentimentality in some of the text which is, after all, just about a ship. Hmains 00:51, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

It appears the previous nominator didn't remove this from the GA page, so I inadvertantly did a second review. My impressions are different in tone (and more detailed than above), but I too would not have passed it immediately (I might have put it on hold, but its too late now). My notes on improving the piece are below.

  • The article needs a references section and the current references section should be renamed notes, as laid out here.
  • As mentioned above, the text is too sentimental. The lead is especially bad for this, and other examples abound, like Few would consider at this moment that the Ohio would be the ship that staved off surrender of an obscure island in the Mediterranean or A series of events were to change the euphoria into resentment and anger. These are supposition and dramatisation and should be removed, or at the very least sourced.
  • Your sourcing whilst good, is not comprehensive, especially when it comes to less tanigible facts as mentioned above. For example, the description of the strategic situation in the Mediterranean at the start of the second section is unsourced, and there are several other places too.
  • The lead should be at least two paragraphs long and give a brief history of the ship's life and what makes it notable (which you have done, but too briefly). It requires a reduction in the dramatic language too.
  • The licensing information on many of the pictures is highly suspect. One has nothing beyond a statement that it is public domain in the United States (its clearly not a pre 1923 photograph) whilst others state simply that they are public domain in Malta without any kind of proof. This is the biggest problem. A GA must have detailed fair-use rationales for non-free images and good explanations of why images are free if they were created after 1923.
  • Finally there are a few typos and syntax problems, although they are rather minor and if you get all the above done, contact me and I'll be happy to do a copy-edit before it goes back to GA.

Best of luck, and a very good job so far, --Jackyd101 00:07, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

You guys have done a great job improving this aritcle, congrats to all. Noha307 18:52, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Speed record[edit]

The record as related in the second section doesn't 'add up'. The time (108 hours) and distance (1882 miles) means 17.4 miles per hour, not knots. (?) AMCKen (talk) 20:03, 16 March 2009 (UTC)AMCKen

That would depend on whether the distance quoted is in nautical miles, or statute miles. If the former, then knots would be correct; if the latter, then mph would be correct. Mjroots (talk) 13:37, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Swapping pictures[edit]

I've swapped the 'entering Grand Harbour' and 'discharging' photos because the GH photo is better known, at least on the European side of the 'pond'. It is more dramatic and therfore more likely to get the attention (being above the infobox), of a browsing reader. RASAM (talk) 22:51, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

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