Talk:Shetland bus

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"British submarines"

The article North Sea says the bus was continued by British submarines, yet here they are listed as HNoMS, and submarine chasers. I've fixed this to say British sub chasers for now. As for ownership and command of the vessels, it seems reasonable to assume that the Norwegian military was not able to operate during the occupation, so I would suspect these ships were British-owned at the time, and may have been given to Norway after the war. Does anyone have information on this history? 82.71.48.158 15:15, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, the Shetlopedia link makes it reasonably clear. 82.71.48.158 15:20, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The ships that carried on the "bus" where three submarine chasers, all in the service of the RNoN. The Norwegian military was very much active during their spell in exile 1940-45. The ships were not British operated. Manxruler 16:28, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Norwegian navy in exile owned and operated 118 vessels june 1940 - may 1945 (58 still active by may 1945). Norsk krigsleksikon 1940-45, Cappelen, Oslo, 1995. Gams2 (talk) 13:45, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Norway having surrendered in 1940 technically there was no longer any RNoN for Germany to recognise, and as Nazi Germany also refused to recognise any of the Allied governments-in-exile the relevant vessels were operated under Royal Navy overall command and would have flown the White Ensign, unless that is, they wished to risk being sunk by either side.

Once Norway surrendered in 1940 (and the same applies to all the other countries that made peace with Germany) its citizens still fighting Germany lost all protection of the Geneva conventions, and so they had to operate, at least as far as Germany was concerned, as 'British'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.150.10.189 (talk) 12:35, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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