Talk:Social class in ancient Rome

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I felt it more accurate to divide the article by class and not by time frame, as the rights and responsibilities of the various classes changed at different times. The facts in this article are taken from Livy, Tacitus, and Petrarch, and from asides in the poetry of Juvenal and Horace. --Charlene.vickers 01:15, 23 December 2005 (UTC)


True, the entire class has a single vote in the comitia tributa, but still don't they deserve some mention? pookster11 05:27, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Article needs completely rewritten[edit]

The current version of this article is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the Roman class system. The Patricians weren't whoever was in the ruling class, they were a select group of families who could claim descent from the founders of Rome. The plebeians were everyone else. The five property divisions of the census were entirely independent of the patrician/plebeian divide and were not based on ancestry. There were many Senators who were plebeian, and they didn't lose their plebeian status when they gained political office. Some religious offices remained open to patricians only - a son of Pompey or Cicero or Marius couldn't be flamen dialis or a pontifex, for example. I'm gathering sources for a rewrite, because as it stands the article's totally misleading. --Nicknack009 21:30, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Why so many deletions[edit]

Large parts of this article have been deleted over the last few days. Is there any reason for this or is it vandalism? (talk) 21:11, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

I deleted material that was inaccurate or off-topic and unsourced. Cynwolfe (talk) 14:48, 6 June 2011 (UTC)


Expanding on certain fundamental Ancient Roman systems like the patronage system and possibility of mobilization would be extremely beneficial. I would also attempt to add the insight of how specialization of public space played a role in the social classes of Rome. I do feel like the article needs some editing, as the defining of terms of groups of people in the beginning is vague and unclear. Some smaller but important parts of Roman social class like how one is named also is not highlighted in the wikipedia article but is very important to understanding the topic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thanlon14 (talkcontribs) 23:00, 7 April 2017 (UTC)