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MacDonnell Pronunciation

"The name Sorley uses above is akin to the modern surname "McConnell" being the Gaelic pronunciation of the name Mac Domhnaill."

Garbage. The D is pronounced. If it weren't, it would be spelled "Mac Dhomhnaill" to show it silent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.104.144.218 (talk) 00:11, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Good job on updating this article! It's fantastic!

Battle at Belahoe in 1539

Can you tell me a little more about this battle? Did the Scots settlers in Ulster join up with the "native" Irish to fight the English invaders in 1539 at Belahoe? Please let me know. Thank you.

Best wishes,

Albert

Bellahoe was a defeat for the O'Neills and O'Donnells (part of the Geraldine league) by central government forces (who wouldn't have seen themselves as invaders) after a Gaelic incursion from the north into the Pale. As far as I know, there was no involvement on either side by any other Scots clansmen, and there is little detail of the MacDonnell contribution. WP is getting good on late Tudor battles and politics (start with Tudor re-conquest of Ireland), but this one is a little early.--shtove 00:23, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for answering my question so thoroughly. I didn't know that Irish soldiers were used to fight the Geraldine League. I guess in the 16th and the 17th century, the English government used Irish troops extensively to crush Irish rebellions against English rule in Ireland.

Best wishes,

Albert

most likely mercenaries. It really wasn't a battle. An ttack on a mob returning w loot —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kindred of St. Columba (talk • contribs) 03:48, 8 March 2008 (UTC) ][reply]

PS Gael armies were often very vulnerable returning to own territory