Talk:Spotted Saddle Horse

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The Spotted Saddle Horse does not have an Appaloosa coloring but more a paint horse coloring. Searching Spotted Saddle Horse in Google images will confirm this. Yamenah 03:17, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Good reason to look for public domain images or ask people to contribute some! My error, I confused with both Tiger Horse and Colorado Ranger, probably. Still think the leopard-spotted gaited horses may benefit from being combined, though some research probably has to happen first...those 10 people who care probably care A LOT (sigh). OK to toss merge tag here and fix it elsewhere... Montanabw 18:57, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Spotted Saddle horse/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:41, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

okay - you know the drill......Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:41, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

The two have similar registration requirements, although they vary slightly. - err, yes. The two clauses say the same thing - either specify in second segment or drop the statement.

Expanded this a bit. Dana boomer (talk) 14:42, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

although solid-colored foals from registered parents are tracked for identification purposes. - bit too vague I think

Expanded this a bit. Dana boomer (talk) 14:42, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

:I have no idea in para 1 of history section when this has taken place over.

Added a couple of general time frames. Basically, gaited spotted horses have been bred for quite a while, but it's just in the past 30-40 years that people have thought "hey, lets create and promote a breed registry for horses with flashy gaits and even flashier coloring". The studbooks are still open/semi-open, so the breed is really still in development. Dana boomer (talk) 14:42, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

The NSSHA is adamant about disallowing cruel and inhumane training and showing practices - err, if these practices are illegal, aren't they disallowed everywhere? I think this needs elaboration

Yes, it's illegal, but it's also profitable if a trainer doesn't get caught. Big gaits = big money, although more so in the Tennessee Walking Horse world, where most of the violations are seen. The NSSHA goes above and beyond the Horse Protection Act of 1970 by having rules against other performance devices that can be used to cover up violations of the HPA - I've expanded on this a bit more in the article. You see a similar split of associations (some focused on big gaits, some on humane training/performance practices) in the TWH world. Dana boomer (talk) 14:42, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

any idea of numbers registered with each body? Is one larger than the other? Are relations cordial or otherwise?

I haven't found anything on numbers. The main split, as I said above, is based on training/performance practices. The two associations don't seem to do any joint projects, release joint press releases, or anything else, so I'm assuming relations aren't cordial. Dana boomer (talk) 14:42, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Cas, thank you for the review! RL just got insane for me (it's spring!!! took it's sweet time getting here, then arrived with a bang...), so it may take me a couple of days to get to this. Just wanted to let you know that I'd seen it! Thanks again, Dana boomer (talk) 02:20, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

OK, I think I've responded to everything above. Let me know if there are further issues. Thanks again for the review, Dana boomer (talk) 14:42, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

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Pass or Fail: - I worry that it's a little slim, and some numbers would be good, but there appears to be very little on a google books or scholar search that is not already covered, so I guess what we have is all that we can glean....otherwise ok. Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:26, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Cas! It is a little on the slim side, but this is one of the newer American breeds/breed registries, and very little research has been done to examine its history or genetics. I'm trying to focus on some of the more substantial breed articles this year, but sometimes it's fun to pop out one of these little ones without all of the thick mitochondrial DNA studies to wade through :) Dana boomer (talk) 10:52, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Different picures

Here are some different-looking pictures to maybe go in history in place of the one that looked too much like the others.

A fairly good side view, without saddle and rider you can see the topline conformation. It'd be better cropped down, though.

Sort of interesting to see what they look like from the front, conformation wise.

I wish there was a picture of a really flashy-colored one on Commons. In the state above me there's a really famous SSH stud who is buckskin tobiano. A picture of one like him would really do a lot. White Arabian mare (Neigh) 20:48, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

The grazing image is not good at all, bad angle and horse is standing on a hill. The other one is a nice horse and I think it's OK to add that one! Montanabw^(talk) 14:58, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Related article and shoeing regulations

I have started an article about the SSHBEA in userspace and came across a newspaper article from a year or two back that says the shoeing rules are now different from what's recorded here-evidently they have changed them in the meantime. They don't allow pads or chains at all now, only somewhat weighted shoes (not sure about shoe bands). Is it ok to add that here with the citation? White Arabian Filly (Neigh) 02:28, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

In a perfect world, you find the current rulebook and cite to it... is it online? Montanabw^(talk) 09:37, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

I'll have to check. The SSHBEA seems to be redoing their website, so it may be up soon if it's not already there. White Arabian Filly (Neigh) 19:58, 31 December 2015 (UTC)