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Date	Process	Result
April 9, 2008	Good article nominee	Listed
May 28, 2008	Peer review	Reviewed

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GA review

the article has a potential to be a good article but there are few things which needs to be fixed.

expand the lead.
either expand the section on musical career and other activities or merge it along the intro with few more additions in intro itself in order to maintain the flow.
add ref. to these statements-
- He gained a measure of notoriety and national attention after the Disco Demolition Night promotion at Comiskey Park, and he is also famous for his longstanding former role as one half of the "Steve and Garry" team (with Garry Meier)
- On April 2, 2007, Meier returned to Chicago radio, doing the 8 AM-11 AM show on WCKG. He appeared briefly on Dahl's show that same day. They occasionally contributed to each others' shows, and Garry spent the first hour and a half in studio during Dahl's show on the 28th year anniversary of Disco Demolition Night, recounting the events of that night.

thanks, hope to see the article as a GA soon. best wishes from Sushant gupta (talk) 18:23, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Working on some of these! Nobody of Consequence (talk) 20:18, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I took care of these! Nobody of Consequence (talk) 20:35, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

GA pass

I think the article is well-cited, factual and neutral. Nice work has been put up by Jauerback and Nobody of Consequence. Keep it up. thanks, Sushant gupta (talk) 03:26, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WJMK

There is a full paragraph regarding Dahl's April Arbitron ratings. When I added the reversal of those ratings in the most recent Arbitron book including a solid citation to the Chicago Tribune Nobody of Consequence undid the entry as vandalism. Nobody of Consequence continues to edit this entry using advocacy for the subject matter. The removal of these facts is, itself, vandalism and such bullying should not be allowed here. If the latest Arbitron ratings are not relevant neither is the April reference as these "facts" are more current. Chicago1919 (talk) 03:04, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Whenever someone removes yet another of your poorly worded, weasel/peacock wordy contributions, you accuse them of advocacy. Nobody here is engaging in advocacy, in fact two of us have brought this article up to GA status almost entirely by ourselves. Given your history, you are clearly a single-purpose account, intent on pushing a negative POV in this one article rather than improving or contributing legitimately to this encyclopedia. It's tiresome. Nobody of Consequence (talk) 04:24, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Removal all mention of ratings?

Does anyone else feel that the ratings are a little too "recent" in the article? It tends to take away from the article being about Dahl's entire history to focus on his month-to-month movements. I think the entire Jack FM section would do better without a discussion of how his ratings are doing. It's too fluid and quick to be really useful for a biography on the man himself. Otherwise, nice job with the article. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:38, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. You could fill an entire article with the ups and downs of ratings, especially now that they are being measured more frequently. It's distracting and irrelevant. I feel they're only applicable if a change in his career is attributed specifically to them (and not just errant supposition). AdamKB (talk) 13:33, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Agreement from here, as well. However, User:Chicago1919 is a SPA who loves to add anything negative that he can find on Dahl, so we appeased him by leaving some of it in. Jauerback^dude?/_dude. 13:44, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree too. I'm fine with pulling all the ratings stuff out, especially since it's probably obsolete just weeks after we update it. Ratings change pretty frequently. Nobody of Consequence (talk) 21:33, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've decided to be bold and deleted the paragraph about Dahl's Jack FM Arbitron ratings. It seems to be causing more problems than it's worth. Maybe over time we can fill it in with other info. Nobody of Consequence (talk) 23:28, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Show style

Is there a source that "Dahl's radio show takes an "every guy" approach to life in Chicago and Dahl often tells bucolic stories about his life and family on the air."? That feels very much like original research to me. If we can, there also should be a source for the fact that Dahl's parodies and impressions are what make him famous. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:47, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'll look around this week, I'm sure I can find something. Nobody of Consequence (talk) 02:38, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OR / not neutral / sourced?

"Although the previous parodies were funny without hitting below the belt, Dahl crossed a line of poor taste with "Another Kid In The Crawl" that was profoundly offensive to many, particularly the parents of 33 boys who were still grieving over their childrens deaths."

May be true, but does not seem to be in policy?

Wportre (talk) 23:10, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Steve Dahl Supper Club

The article should mention the Steve Dahl Supper Club, a nationally syndicated weekly evening radio program from 1982.

72.82.184.93 (talk) 10:30, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Personal life (son's university education)

Not sure how adding information about where Steve Dahl's son Matt graduated from college improves the article, especially since nothing is said about where Steve's other two sons went to school. (For what it's worth, Pat graduated from Northwestern University and Mike graduated from the University of Illinois.) I'm not saying the information about Matt graduating from DePaul is incorrect, it just doesn't seem to be relevant to the article. There's lots of factual information that could be added about Steve's family, but how much of it would actually improve the article. If Matt Dahl had his own Wikipedia article, then it would make perfect sense to include such information there. I just, however, do not see the point of including it here. I think enough information about Steve's sons is already given. It shows they share their father's interest in media related matters. If others feel differently, then please discuss. Thanks in advance. - Marchjuly (talk) 22:59, 10 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

White Sox season tickets

Since the beginning of 2014, Dahl has been hinting that he no longer wishes to be a season ticket holder for the Chicago White Sox. He has previously mentioned numerous times that he did not attend a single during the 2013 season and instead sold his tickets to others through a ticket broker service. Finally on his April 22, 2014 podcast, he came out and said that the tickets are quite expensive and he's just not as interested in seeing games in person anymore. So, he decided not to renew his season tickets for 2014. Dahl's still says he's a White Sox fan, just not a season ticket holder any longer. Since the original mention of his being a season ticket holder is properly sourced, I am not sure what is the best way to remove or change this information. Can it be taken care of by simply deleting the mention or reference? Does the fact that he is no longer a season ticket holder need to be added to the article? How do you provide a reliable source for information that is being deleted from the article? - Marchjuly (talk) 00:52, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Filmography/Discography

Although Dahl is not really a actor/recording artist per se, he has appeared in a number of films and on a number of TV shows according to his IMDb page. He has also released a number of albums/singles such according to All Music and Discogs. Lots of the songs Dahl's recorded are parodies or covers, but there was some original stuff as well such as Pet Fishsticks. Whether these are notable enough for stand-alone articles/stubs is debatable, but they might be worth including in a table added to this article. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:57, 4 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Steve & Garry

The ampersand appears to be part of the show's official name so it probably should be used per MOS:AMP since the name would be a proper noun. I've gone ahead and changed it, and added an WP:ANCHOR for Steve and Garry. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:23, 14 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"bucolic"?

Dahl's radio show takes an "every guy" approach to life in Chicago and Dahl often tells bucolic stories about his life and family

"Bucolic" means "rural". Dahl grew up in the '60s, in a Los Angeles suburb, and in any event, according to the beginning of the sentence he's talking about "life in Chicago". I don't follow his show; is he telling stories about how the bull charged the combine while he was putting in a plot of sorghum over by Willis Tower?--NapoliRoma (talk) 02:48, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That particular sentence does seem a bit inappropriate per WP:NPOV and MOS:OPED, unless it's a direct quote from a cited source. FWIW, I think the lede in general should probably be trimmed/cleaned up a bit to make it more neutral sounding and better reflect article content per MOS:LEAD. For example. all of the content about Dahl's acting is unsourced and not mentioned anywhere within the article, so that probably would be better off removed or the article explanded to include a subsection on acting supported by citations to reliable sources. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:57, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Acting career

The lede should be a summary of the main things discussed later in the article; it shouldn't be the only time something is mentioned in the article. Dahl has appeared in films and on TV; however, it's hard to find any mention of these things outside of primary sources and IMDb. It might be a good idea to either remove the mentions altogether if proper sources cannot be found or create a new subsection in the article for the content if proper sourcing can be found. The current situation, however, is not really desirable for Wikipedia's purposes. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:25, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Pet Fishsticks" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Pet Fishsticks and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 31#Pet Fishsticks until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Steel1943 (talk) 09:35, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]