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Bushfires

What causes most of the bushfires on slopes of stomboli?--66.109.50.135 16:47, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Um, sorry I forgot to put a reference about the whole Tolkien thing. That's dealt with now, so, um, yeah! ^_^;;;

Vandalism

What in the world is up with the back-and-forth vandalism of this page? It's quite stupid, leave it alone. - Crazed Ewok | Talk 17:51, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

27-2-2007 eruption

Source: BBC News front page. No article to link to yet. MartinMcCann 16:03, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

There's a link there now. Two new craters reported, lava running into the sea. Interesting - but then I'm a volcano not, I must admit. Darkmind1970 16:20, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sicilian name for Stromboli

On 11 May 2010, the Sicilian language version of the Stromboli article [1] became a redirect from "Stròmbuli" to "Struògnuli", with discussion of the name in Sicilian and/or Italian at [2]. This name change has not been mirrored in the introduction of the English language version of the Stromboli article. Since the edit by User:Babbaluci on 2 March 2009 until now, the first sentence of the English article has stated that the Sicilian name for Stromboli is "Stròmbuli", but no source is given for such a claim.

On 26 May 2010, to highlight the fact that the Sicilian name of Stromboli had been revised in the Sicilian Wikipedia, I added a "fact" tag to the Sicilian name in the English article, which displayed as "citation needed". My edit was accompanied with the comment "Sicilian name - added citation needed - name in Sicilian Wikipedia article recently changed to "Struògnuli".

On 7 June 2010, my edit was undone by User:Complainer with the comment "Citations for a one-word translation?? Seriously...".

As the article stands, readers will continue to assume that the Sicilian word for "Stromboli" is "Stròmbuli". If this is the case, why does the Sicilian language version of the article now use a different name? I don't speak Sicilian or Italian, therefore I am not able to explain the discrepancy.

I believe Sicilian words used in English Wikipedia articles should be challenged for explanation or verifiable sources if the Sicilian Wikipedia version states something different. I am not claiming that the Sicilian article uses the correct or incorrect name, simply that it now differs from the English version's unsourced claim of what the Sicilian word is. Unsourced information in Wikipedia should be challenged even if it is "only" one word, if the validity of that word is questionable.

Instead of making unneccesarily flippant comments when they reverse my good faith edits, I'd welcome more constructive help from native speakers of Sicilian or Italian (including User:Complainer) to investigate the Sicilian name change more closely, thus improving the English version of the Stromboli article.

GeoWriter (talk) 14:57, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have added a "Dubious|date=June 2010" tag to the Sicilian name for Stromboli in the article.

GeoWriter (talk) 16:58, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Name now corrected. Skinsmoke (talk) 11:54, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Also note the discrepancy between the Greek Wikipedia version of this article which refers to Stromboli as "Στρόμπολι", but this English Wikpedia article which uses "Στρονγύλη". Perhaps the Greek version used here is Ancient Greek not Modern Greek? --GeoWriter (talk) 13:43, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Type of Eruption

Stromboli is considered to be the type volcano for Strombolian eruptions. Guiseppe Mercalli coined the term and described it as "... moderate explosions at regular intervals..." which is what most eruptions from the vents on Stromboli are. Each vent erupts at approximately 20 minute intervals, but there is approximately up to 10 minutes between one vent and the next vent erupting. It has been in a state of continuous eruption for over 2000 years and was referred to by the Romans as the "Lighthouse of the Mediterranean."The Geologist (talk) 17:05, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Mordor and Mt. Doom

Check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordor "Mordor was unique because of the three enormous mountain ranges surrounding it, from the north, from the west and from the south. The mountains both protected the land from an unexpected invasion by any of the people living in those directions and kept those living in Mordor from escaping. Tolkien was reported to have identified Mordor with the volcano of Stromboli off Sicily." Tough stuff! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.78.79.144 (talk) 07:21, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Seems rather irrelevant here. Quote removed. Vsmith (talk) 17:32, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Removed again as poorly sourced - comments in a fanzine and collectors guide fail WP:RS. Vsmith (talk) 20:15, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Stromboli from Pinocchio (1940)

Why isn't Stromboli from Pinocchio (1940) mentioned in the "Cinema and literature" section of the article? 24.180.56.157 (talk) 20:14, 27 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Added a link to tephra article

Hi,

A link was added to the tephra article.--Mikabella95 (talk) 20:52, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Additional Italian active volcanoes

The article states it is one of 3 active and one of 4 active volcanoes in Italy. Needs clarification. 76.93.231.165 (talk) 20:52, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Why moved to "Stromboli Island"

Abcmaxx can you explain where you are heading with this move? There is already a Stromboli (disambiguation) page and this article on this page covers only one topic so I am not sure what you are "splitting"? What do you want to go at Stromboli? —DIYeditor (talk) 08:36, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Abcmaxx stop what you're doing. You are engaged in an WP:EDITWAR and were already invited here to talk per WP:BRD. If you think "Stromboli" should be a disambiguation page rather than an article about Stromboli please discuss it here. —DIYeditor (talk) 09:04, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

because the article was meant to be about the island but it was mostly about the volcano and only partly about the island. This way the article is no longer an incoherent mess of two different subjects and also is more in line with every other present including that on other languages. Abcmaxx (talk) 09:18, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, that's fine. Why are you insisting on Stromboli not being about the island? If you think it should be a disambiguation page why is that? —DIYeditor (talk) 09:20, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Abcmaxx Please read WP:TITLEDAB and WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and address why you think Stromboli should be a redirect or disambiguation page rather than discuss the island. If I do not hear back on this I will be forced to revert your move again. —DIYeditor (talk) 09:24, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

because some links should be to volcano and others to the island, but if you think differently go ahead and alter the hatnotes accordingly, but one mush of two half-articles on two subjects wasn't really useful in that regard, this way we can avoid wrong redirects in the future so peoplecan specify whether they mention the volcano or the island. Abcmaxx (talk) 09:25, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That's not how it works. You can link to Stromboli (the island) and to Stromboli (Mount Stromboli) like that. Look at the page source if you don't see what I mean. [[Mount Stromboli|Stromboli]]. Stromboli should be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. I invited you to read the articles on PRIMARYTOPIC and WP:TITLEDAB, please avail yourself of them. If your argument is that the primary thing called "Stromboli" is not the island, we can discuss that, but I think at this point I'm going to assume you are just misunderstanding how Wikipedia works. —DIYeditor (talk) 09:34, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I actually can't fix what you've done here because of WP:3RR so I'd like to invite you to move Stromboli (island) back to Stromboli and fix the "other" on this article to be Stromboli (disambiguation) or I will do it tomorrow. I myself did not understand that page moves would count along with edits to the article text toward 3RR. —DIYeditor (talk) 09:41, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've redirected Stromboli back to this article, but I am also unable to move Stromboli (island) back to Stromboli, as I am not a page mover. Natg 19 (talk) 01:03, 7 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'll post to requested moves. Furius (talk) 07:20, 7 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That's done now. If @Abcmaxx: thinks that a move is the best way forward then we can certainly discuss that. For myself, I'm not convinced that the two topics are really separable. This is an island that is a volcano. But perhaps other users will have different opinions :) Furius (talk) 07:40, 7 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

For such a controversial request, WP:PCM is the way to go for seeking consensus. Silikonz💬 07:45, 7 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Split proposal

After 1.5 years, consensus seems to be against splitting, as with other volcanic islands. Neodop (talk) 14:11, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

A volcano is not the same as an island. The article was meant to be about the island but initially it was mostly about the volcano and only partly about the island. Currently the article an incoherent mess of two different subjects. Splitting into an article would make it not only more sensible but also more in line with every other precedent including that on other languages, mainly on itwiki. Abcmaxx (talk) 11:33, 13 February 2023‎ (UTC)[reply]

Support: per nom - Jjpachano (talk) 12:48, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The volcano is the main feature of the island, not to mention the volcano is what forms the island. Having two separate articles for the island and volcano would be unnecessary. There are tons of articles about volcanic islands formed by an individual volcano that aren't split, Anak Krakatoa, Kauai and Surtsey being examples. See Category:Volcanic islands for more. Volcanoguy 22:35, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with Volcano Guy.Davidstewartharvey (talk) 17:57, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: the volcano is the same as the island. I see no value in splitting the article. Furius (talk) 19:50, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. The only text in the current article not about the volcano is a sentence about a mythological god, a few lines about three villages and a dialect, then brief mention of a film and song. I think this does not justify a split. I agree with other commenters – the island is the volcano and the volcano is the island. GeoWriter (talk) 18:35, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per above --_ZZ^Z 'S 23:37, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion on fate of Stromboli link

I'm not even sure the island is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC in English for "Stromboli", it might be the food. So should there be only a disambiguation page at Stromboli (if not the food) and if so who is going to fix the incoming links? Stromboli (island), Mount Stromboli, and Stromboli being Stromboli (disambiguation) or Stromboli (food)? Let's settle this all at once. —DIYeditor (talk) 13:04, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am not sure why the page needs to be split. Clearly the article is badly written, but the Mountain and the Settlement would both be stubs if they were separated. Would it just make sense to create a redirect page for the Mountain to this page and write it so its less a mess?Davidstewartharvey (talk) 14:16, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Coming from outside the US, I'd think the island Stromboli is the primary topic, with the volcano Mount Stromboli (if split off) and Stromboli (disambiguation) both mentioned in a hatnote. Places tend to take priority as primary topics, and I wonder whether the food may be very US-specific (i.e. I've never heard of it, in UK ... but I see that the BBC knows about it). PamD 14:35, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I thought that might be the case about the food, google results vary. My results here overwhelmingly mention the food for "stromboli" which is why I thought maybe the disambiguation page there would be appropriate. —DIYeditor (talk) 15:11, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that this is the primary topic; I've never heard of the food, but it looks tasty. Furius (talk) 19:51, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.