Talk:Stuck Inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues Again
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A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on May 17, 2023. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Bob Dylan has played the song "Stuck Inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues Again" 748 times in concert performances between 1976 and 2010? | |||||||||||||
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GA Review
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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 07:44, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
- It is reasonably well written.
- It is factually accurate and verifiable.
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- d. (copyvio and plagiarism):
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- It is broad in its coverage.
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For this review, we are reunited after a while! --K. Peake 07:44, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
Infobox and lead
[edit]- Separate the genres using bullet points per Template:Infobox song
- Write out the rock genre in the body rather than sourcing in the infobox
- Removed genre from infobox - see comment under Referencing. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 13:02, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
- Can you stylize the audio for a song infobox instead?
- Second infobox looks good, apart from is there supposed to be no singles chronology?
- Added. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 13:02, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
- "which was released on his seventh studio album" → "from his seventh studio album,"
- You need to write out directly in the body that Dylan wrote the song
- The lead is not properly sorted into paragraphs; I would recommend running the first up until the 1971 release and the second para from the earlier take onwards, as I will further instruct
- "All twenty takes of "Stuck Inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues Again"" → "All 20 takes of the song" per MOS:NUM
- "also appears on 1971's" → "also appeared on Dylan's second compilation album," with the wikilink and add the year in brackets instead
- "An earlier take was" → "An earlier take of the song was" since this will be a new para
- "The song has received a" → ""Stuck Inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blue Again" has received a" and add what was praised about it
- The praise is quite vague actually, but I've had an attempt at this. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 12:47, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
- "recorded in May 1976 was included" → "recorded in May 1976 was included on" and introduce the album
- I've amended the artivle per the points above. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 12:47, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
Recording
[edit]- Retitle to Background and recording
- Pipe acoustic to Acoustic music
- "In 1965, he hired" → "In 1965, Dylan hired"
- "that the recording sessions" → "that the sessions"
- Wikilink harmonica
- Pipe Kenneth Buttrey to Kenny Buttrey
- "All twenty takes of" → "All 20 takes of" per MOS:NUM
- "This, and four additional takes" does this mean that take and the other four were released on the edition? If not, then I would suggest changing this to mentioning the four takes also being released.
- Yes, take 13 and four otheres were on the six-disc Deluxe edition. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 14:46, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
- "when it was in included on" → "when it was included on"
- All addressed. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 14:46, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
Critical comments
[edit]- Retitle to Analysis and reception
- "identified several possible influences" → "identifies several possible influences" and for consistency, you should use the same tense throughout unless it's a non-biographical source
- Start a new sentence at Ma Rainey with "He further notes the influence of" or something similar
- "that he employed on some of" → "as he employed on some of"
- Why is "and" used for the preacher + rainman then railroad men + deceased grandfather?
- "listeners would realise that" → "listeners would realise,"
- "we all inhabit"." should have the punctuation inside if this is a full sentence per MOS:QUOTE
- "Dave Margoshes of the considered the song," → "Dave Margoshes considered the song,"
- Is Crawdaddy supposed to be piped to Crawdaddy (magazine)?
- "oh-so-accurate refrain."" → "oh-so-accurate refrain"."
- Not done, as the quote is a full sentence from the source. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 11:23, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
- Italicise Uncut
- ""grand statements on" → ""grand statements" on"
- Addressed all of the comments - I think the tense is now consistent. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 11:23, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
Live performances
[edit]- Pipe Pensacola to Pensacola, Florida
- "on May 16, 176," → "on May 16, 1976," obviously
- The three omitted verses part is not mentioned by any of the sources
- Done - added a source for the omitted verses. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 14:05, 4 April 2023 (UTC) (I later found "excising three verses of 'Memphis Blues Again'" in the Rachlis Rolling Stone article; I think this is what I had originally relied on. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 12:45, 5 April 2023 (UTC)_
Personnel
[edit]- Wikilink Joe South on the img text
References
[edit]- Ref 1 needs to be corrected from bare formatting
- I removed this. I don't think sheetmusicplus is a suitable source for the genre; I found three different claims:
- https://www.sheetmusicplus.com/title/stuck-inside-of-mobile-with-the-memphis-blues-again-digital-sheet-music/19427074 has "Folk, Rock"
- https://www.sheetmusicplus.com/title/stuck-inside-of-mobile-with-the-memphis-blues-again-digital-sheet-music/20267366 has "Folk, Pop"
- https://www.sheetmusicplus.com/title/stuck-inside-of-mobile-with-the-memphis-blues-again-digital-sheet-music/19415742 has "Blues, Folk, Rock"
- Wikilink AllMusic on ref 11
- Done.
- Shouldn't ref 27 cite Uncut as standard and pipe to Uncut (magazine)?
- It's one of their special editions rather than the standard magazines. I've wikilinked Uncut.
- Wikilink Rolling Stone on ref 35
- Pipe Far Out to Far Out (magazine) on ref 36
- Wikilink Ultimate Classic Rock on ref 37 per MOS:LINK2SECT
- Wikilink Taylor & Francis
- Amended per the four points above. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 14:34, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
External links
[edit]- Good
Final comments and verdict
[edit]- On hold until all of the issues are fixed; sorry about the lateness, I was having to review on train Wi-Fi. --K. Peake 21:16, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- Many thank for a typically thorough review, K. Peake. Let me know if anything else is required. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 12:48, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
- ✓ Pass now, this was an ideal pace while I'm on holiday! --K. Peake 20:12, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
Did you know nomination
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The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 19:35, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
- ... that Bob Dylan has played the song "Stuck Inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues Again" 748 times in concert performances between 1976 and 2010? Source: http://www.bobdylan.com/songs/stuck-inside-mobile-memphis-blues-again/
Improved to Good Article status by BennyOnTheLoose (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 01:24, 11 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Stuck Inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues Again; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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Overall: Earwig went wild, but I didn't see issues --evrik (talk) 16:28, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- I have to say I don't find this hook particularly interesting. Looks like it's only Dylan's 19th most-played song in concert, and I can't see any particualr significance to the number 748. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 17:37, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- I find it interesting @BennyOnTheLoose:. I guess it speaks to how important the song especially since Dylan wrote so many List of songs written by Bob Dylan Bruxton (talk) 19:34, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
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