Talk:Sunny Hundal

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A number of IP and new editors have added content which fails WP:BLP (and WP:RS); please refer to the top of the edit screen!. Due to multiple editors involved, a short (4 day) editing block on IP and new editors has been placed on this article while those editors refer to the details about BLP and sources. --AlisonW 13:42, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Request for deletion

Why does this guy get page on wikipedia His blog has very view viewers. And has little to interest anyone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Huninutty (talk • contribs) 15:10, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

On the contrary, he was voted Blogger of the Year. I don't agree with all of his POV but he seems notable enough. I've added some sources. - Fayenatic (talk) 20:33, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

He was voted blogger of the year on the Guardian Talk is Free webpages for articles he wrote for the Guardian. That is hardly enough to make notability. Is any newspaper patting the back of their own journalist enough to make it sufficiently notable? I vote for deletion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.243.13.238 (talk) 16:00, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

"Sunny Hundal describes himself as a vegetarian and a strong environmentalist." - is this a personals service or wikipedia?

"In 2008, he wrote a blog post saying that non-white voters should consider voting Conservative, on the basis that "brown people" were being deliberately targeted by anti-terrorism legislation brought in by the New Labour government of Gordon Brown." - is this kind of detail even interesting? Delete, this person lacks any real notability. What literature has he published? Having a platform as an extremely minor journalist of no note is not sufficient to justify a wikipedia entry. This is a self-promotion piece.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.243.13.238 (talk) 16:06, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Feel free to delete the paragraph about the 2008 blog post; I agree that it isn't very important to the article. As for the rest of your comments, see below. - Fayenatic (talk) 19:05, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

To biased in favour of him

I went on his blog and he was quite rude to me, and deleted all my posts. I thought he was hindu but he is a Sikh. Plus he boasts of how he has spoken out against muslim and hindu groups well so what if he is a sikh what is so good about that. That is like me speaking out bravely against extremism in the muslim and jewish society, yet not about racism from white people. This page acts as a hero worship publicty page cheering him on as some sort of hero against racism. There are no citations. It talks of how he won awards. It advertises everything he has done. Who wrote this? I do not get this? Is wikipedia an advert for people. OK i will not be racist ot him but this is rubbish. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Huninutty (talk • contribs) 15:18, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Agree completely. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.243.13.238 (talk) 16:07, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Further to this, looking at the initial revision, it was added with an initial link to a website called "Asians in Media." It seems that this guy's notable characteristic is to be Asian and had some peripheral involvement in the media. If he were called Michael Jones would he get a wikipedia page? I do not think so. This is not Salman Rushdie after all. 123.243.13.238 (talk) 16:29, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

There are many references to him in the general media: try a Google news archive search. This is sufficient evidence that Sunny Hundal is a notable journalist, and multiple newspapers describe him in such terms. The comments denying this come from one single-purpose editor who has admitted above that Hundal deleted his comments from a blog, and another slew of comments from a single anon who likewise has made no other contributions to the encyclopedia.

You ask who wrote this. I wrote some of it. I'm a general editor with no connection to Hundal; I don't agree with all he writes, but I agree that he is notable. - Fayenatic (talk) 19:05, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Have a look at WP:AUTHOR, I do not see that he meets any of the standards. Making a claim that similar bad content exists is not justification for this content to exist. He is not Martin Amis, he is unpublished, marginal working journalist who happens to be UK Asian. That does not meet the criteria of sufficient notability. He is not a reference point in the blogosphere either such as the originator of www.dailykos.com for instance. It is a real stretch to say that his construction of his blog has become a cultural reference point worthy of a wikipedia entry. Google hits are not a substitute for a reasonable analysis of WP:AUTHOR criteria. Articles appearing in CiF section of the Guardian do not even necessarily appear in print, it is a soapbox. 123.243.13.238 (talk) 00:51, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

WP:AUTHOR includes "widely cited by their peers" which is demonstrated here; see the examples cited from the New Statesman, Independent and Sydney Morning Herald. He is published in mutiple broadsheets. Nobody has claimed WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS! You appear to have an axe to grind; start your own blog, perhaps? - Fayenatic (talk) 00:12, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Ambiguous sentence

"The BBC also quoted his criticism of Shahrukh Khan's endorsement of skin-lightening creams as 'completely immoral'." This means that SH said that SK's endorsement was immoral, and the BBC quoted SH. But it is possible to read it as saying that SH criticised SK's endorsement, and the BBC said that this criticism was immoral; this is how I read it the first time. I hope someone can find a way to get rid of the ambiguity. Maproom (talk) 19:52, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I have reworded that sentence. Maproom (talk) 16:54, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Well done, thanks. I hadn't noticed your request above, until now. - Fayenatic (talk) 19:21, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

'in order to influence its political direction'

This is an incongruous phrase - at first you think, 'Seems normal enough to me,' and 'Why else would one join a political party?' But no, there no doubt exist many cases of party members apparently or relatively satisfied to leave the political direction to others. There is ambiguity, here, tho. In the context of the above text, in can be read as implying an attempt to influence the Labour Party towards the right; when you look at the relevant link, on the other hand, SH speaks of 'defending the welfare state.'--86.31.105.33 (talk) 10:51, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

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