Talk:Tag team championships in WWE

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How about an actual article?

Was thinking that this page could be expanded to become an actual article on the history of the Capitol/WWWF/WWF/WWE tag team title(s) 1956-present. A quick potted history and tables for longest championship reigns would do. Here is a draft if anyone wants to work further on it:

History

Capitol Wrestling set up its first tag team championship, the United States Tag Team Championship in 1956. When Capitol seceeded from the National Wrestling Alliance in 1963 and became the WWWF, the new organisation took control of the championship, which became the WWWF United States Tag Team Championship. In 1967, WWWF World champion Bruno Sammartino teamed with Spiros Arion to win the belts. Due to Sammartino's World singles title, they vacated the titles which were then abandoned.

For two years, the WWWF had no tag team championship until The Rising Suns (Toru Tanaka and Mitsu Arakawa) arrived in the promotion in September 1969 with the WWWF International Tag Team Championship which they claimed to have won in a tournament in Tokyo, Japan back in June that year. This became the WWWF's tag team title until 1971, mostly being held by The Mongols. When they left the WWWF, taking the titles with them, the promotion set up a new World Tag Team Championship which would last until 2010. In November 2001 at the Survivor Series, this was unified with the WCW World Tag Team Championship.

After WWE's initial brand extension in the spring of 2002, the original World Tag Team Championship was reassigned that following summer to appear and be defended exclusively on the Raw brand, leaving the SmackDown brand without a tag team title. As a result, then-SmackDown General Manager Stephanie McMahon introduced a new WWE Tag Team Championship and commissioned it to be the tag team title for the SmackDown brand.

Both titles were unified in 2009 and were collectively referred to as the "Unified WWE Tag Team Championship" while officially remaining independently active until the World Tag Team Championship was formally decommissioned in 2010, leaving the new title as WWE's only tag team championship. As a result of the 2016 draft, the championship became exclusive to Raw with a subsequent rename, and SmackDown created the WWE SmackDown Tag Team Championship as a counterpart title. In addition, WWE developmental brand NXT established its own Tag Team Championship in January 2013. The Raw, Smackdown and NXT tag team titles are WWE's three currently active tag team championships.

Longest Championship reigns

NB: first placed The New Day, second place Demolition, third placed The Fabulous Kangaroos and fifth placed The Mongols also all retain the specific records for each of their respective titles held. At present, Heath Slater and Rhyno hold the specific record for the SmackDown Tag team championship with 84 days, while The Ascension hold the specific record for the NXT Tag team championship with 364 days.

#	Team	Title	Reign	Length (days)
1	The New Day	WWE Raw Tag Team Championship	1st	483
2	Demolition	World Tag Team Championship (WWE)	1st	478
3	The Fabulous Kangaroos	WWWF United States Tag Team Championship	3rd	409
4	The Valiant Brothers	World Tag Team Championship (WWE)	1st	370
5	The Mongols	WWF International Tag Team Championship	1st	368

95.150.101.50 (talk) 09:28, 21 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I kinda like it. It would convert this article into a set index article, which would probably be appropriate as the context an SIA can provide is useful in a situation like these titles where the details could prove confusing to readers unfamiliar with the history, which is likely the majority. oknazevad (talk) 11:22, 21 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Bear in mind [[Pro Wrestling Illistrated traditionally considered the US, International and World titles to be all one single lineage á la the NWA tracing its World Title back to 1905. Also consider the recent The New Day/Demolition confusion - until the Demos outlived the Kangaroos' US title reign, there was always a dispute over whether the Kangas or the Valiants were the longest reigning champs. The situation with The New Day just revives this dispute. 95.150.101.50 (talk) 13:19, 21 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Indont knownidnsay it revives any dispute. After all, the New Day have the single longest tag team reign in WWE history irrespective of which title is being discussed. That's pretty indisputable. oknazevad (talk) 21:28, 21 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm saying that the dispute over whether The ND have "broken Demolition's record" is the same issue as the debate 1975-1989 over whether the Kangaroos or the Valiants were the "longest reigning W(W)WF tag champions". From 1989-2016 it was a non issue because Demolition had broken BOTH the Valiants' AND the Kangaroos' records and set 478 days as the new record for both. Now the two records (all WWE tag titles vs the "classic" World tag title only) are separate once more. 95.150.101.50 (talk) 09:50, 22 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I see want you're saying, but the records were separate for Demolition, too, in that they weren't the longest reigning champs with prior, discontinued versions of the titles. Not really a different situation, and not one I've seen much commentary about. Don't think we need to worry about it in the article; if it was something that was getting significant discussion in reliable sources, then yes, but otherwise it's just too trivial to note. oknazevad (talk) 12:00, 22 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 9 August 2019

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The result of the move request was: Move to Tag team championships in WWE, with a secondary change of WWE Women's Championship to Championships in Women's WWE. There's certainly a consensus to move each of the articles, and there are several variants on the names, of which I am choosing that which was the first alternative that gained substantial support; the exact wording appears to be secondary to a desire to move. User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 00:10, 18 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

AddendumI fixed the second move of the women's championships article. There's no such thing as "Women's WWE". That title, which makes no sense grammatically, was not the discussed title. Please do not move articles to illogical titles that were not discussed. oknazevad (talk) 00:57, 18 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

WWE Tag Team Championship → WWE Tag Team Championships – The article name is currently confusing. The WWE Raw Tag Team Championship was known by this name from 2002–2016 (with the exception of a short period in the middle). It is much more likely that someone would come here looking for the championship by that name, than a listing of championships used by WWE. Once moved this article should redirect to WWE Raw Tag Team Championship and a hatnote could be placed on the top of that page directing people to the new page. Galatz גאליץ ^{שיחה Talk} 18:41, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. This name is pretty generic, and therefore appropriate for a disambiguation page, or a set index article, which is what this article currently is. Just because one of the titles once was named this exact name for a period of time doesn't mean it has exclusive claim to the name. oknazevad (talk) 22:49, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose/neutral - The World Tag Team Championship (WWE) was also known by this name for a brief period in 2002. I don't disagree with changing the name of this to making it plural, but I think the singular should still redirect here. --JDC808 ♫ 02:20, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
If the article is about several tag team titles im wwe, why not something like "Tag team championships in wwe"?--HHH Pedrigree (talk) 15:03, 11 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- That works too for me. - Galatz גאליץ ^{שיחה Talk} 15:31, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  - I think the name in better. WWE Tag Team Championship is a name shared by two titles (the current RAW Tag Team title and the former World Tag Team Title). The article talks about every single tag team title owned by WWE, including WCW, NXT, International, when the promotion was named WWWF... I think a better name is Tag Team titles in WWE or Tag Team titles promoted by WWE or something. Maybe @Oknazevad: @JDC808: have no objections with this new name.--HHH Pedrigree (talk) 12:17, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    - I'm fine with a name of that sort. And we should probably do the same with the WWE Women's Championship article as it is just like this, but with the women's championships. --JDC808 ♫ 12:51, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
      - @JDC808: Agreed, great point, thanks!
      - I think Tag Team Championships used by WWE or Tag Team Championships used in WWE makes more sense than promoted. If you use the word promoted you run into a grey area of inclusion. Do you include NWA because it has been promoted by WWF. Does Evolve Tag Team Championship get included since the WWE co-promoted Evolve 131? - Galatz גאליץ ^{שיחה Talk} 13:51, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
        Agree with Galatz, best Tag team Championships used by WWE. Also, agree with the Women's title article.--HHH Pedrigree (talk) 15:20, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Tag team championships in WWE" (note the lowercase as it's being used generically) is a good descriptive title for an overview page. (Same with "Women's championships in WWE".) I would have no objection to those titles. That said, I don't think any redirects should be changed, as the current titles of those two articles are generic enough, in the sense that they are far more likely search terms, and they should continue to point to what are essentially disambiguation pages, and not any particular title. oknazevad (talk) 19:29, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Include others?

I know this might be nit picky but I was thinking about the WCW Cruiserweight Tag Team Championship. Technically WWF owned WCW during the last Nitro where they were defended. Is that enough to include here?

Also the NWA one have been defended in WWF, most recently in the 90s with the The NWA (wrestling stable) angle. Is that enough to include them here? - Galatz גאליץ ^{שיחה Talk} 15:06, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't include either. The NWA titles may have appeared on Raw, but they were never owned by nor billed as WWF titles. And the WCW Cruiserweight tag titles never appeared on WWF-billed shows at all. That last Nitro was a weird show in that it was and wasn't a WWF show at the same time. But even so, that wouldn't be enough to make it worth listing. oknazevad (talk) 11:41, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"WWE Tag Team Champions (disambiguation)" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Falling out of the top 10.

I am posting the British Bulldogs' 11th place rating here. If four more teams reach the Top 10 then the table can be expanded to a Top 15.

#	Team	Title	Reign	Length (days)	Notes
11	The British Bulldogs (Dynamite Kid and Davey Boy Smith)	World Tag Team Championship	1	294	During this reign, the title was known as the WWF World Tag Team Championship.