Talk:Takogo, kak Putin!

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Did you know... that the 2002 Russian pop song "A Man like Putin" inadvertently became adopted as propaganda?

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 22:14, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that despite being a work of cynicism, the Russian pop song "A Man like Putin" was used by Vladimir Putin's 2004 re-election campaign? Source: https://www.crikey.com.au/2011/12/23/putin-a-comic-book-hero-to-stir-the-russian-spirit/
- ALT1: ... that the 2002 Russian propaganda song "A Man like Putin" arose from a $300 bet that the songwriter could write a chart-topping song on a small budget? Source: https://www.crikey.com.au/2011/12/23/putin-a-comic-book-hero-to-stir-the-russian-spirit/ and http://web.archive.org/web/20151223054938/http://wlrn.org/post/russian-songwriter-feeds-pro-anti-putin-crowds
  - ALT1: ... that the 2002 Russian propaganda song "A Man like Putin" arose from a bet that the songwriter could write a chart-topping song on a small budget?
- ALT2: ... that there is confusion as to whether the 2002 Russian pop song "A Man like Putin" is pro-Putin propaganda or anti-Putin satire? Source: https://www.crikey.com.au/2011/12/23/putin-a-comic-book-hero-to-stir-the-russian-spirit/ and http://web.archive.org/web/20151223054938/http://wlrn.org/post/russian-songwriter-feeds-pro-anti-putin-crowds
  - ALT2: ... that although the 2002 Russian pop song "A Man like Putin" was written with the intent to make a chart-topping hit, it inadvertently became adopted as pro-Putin propaganda?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Hanna Dmyterko
- Comment: Note that the WLRN-TV reference mentions a $200 bet, while the Crikey reference (which quotes PBS) mentions a $300 bet; unfortunately this inconsistency is just another nuance of foreign currency conversion, and can't be avoided.

Created by Benlisquare (talk). Self-nominated at 00:51, 25 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

As this has not been reviewed yet I'll be taking it up for review. However it's getting late where I live so I'll probably do the full review tomorrow. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 15:12, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The article meets DYK requirements and a QPQ has been done. No close paraphrasing was found and the hook facts are cited inline. My preferred hook is some variant of ALT2. However, reading through the article and the Crikey source, there isn't so much "confusion" as to disagreement over the intent of the song. As far as I can tell, the song was created not really to be propaganda, but to be a top hit. It was also satirical, and yet it did end up being used as propaganda (seemingly unintentionally). Thus, rather than there being "confusion" over the song's intentions, it may instead be worth noting that it was created not to be a propaganda song, it was instead created to be a chart-toping hit. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:31, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As for ALT1, I suppose it's a usable hook, but due to the conversion issues with the exact amount it may be worth simply omitting how much the bet was altogether. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:56, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Narutolovehinata5: Thanks for the suggestions, I've reworded ALT1 and ALT2. --benlisquare_T•C•E 08:26, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Benlisquare: Thank you. This is almost ready to go. The article just needs a footnote or some explanation regarding the discrepancy between the $200 and $300 figures. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:35, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Narutolovehinata5: Done. --benlisquare_T•C•E 11:02, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I have no particular preference between ALT1 and ALT2 so I will leave the final decision to the promoter. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:05, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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