Talk:Temporary Autonomous Zone

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I would like to see this article elaborated on, as I'm new to the concept... Maybe some of Bey's detractors? Critiques? I've come across this author and his concepts through various channels, so it much have caught on at least decently and any idea that catches on has detractors and critics, right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Twobitsprite (talkcontribs) (23:51, 26 July 2005)

The article at present is actually about one section of the book T.A.Z.; should it be expanded to include the whole book? Шизомби 03:49, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Use as Protest[edit]

There should be a section regarding TAZ as a form of protest and its use in the rave culture. [See] —Preceding unsigned comment added by FerventDove (talkcontribs) (18:48, 3 November 2006) Is there a connection/inspiration or whatever between TAZ and raves? Kortoso (talk) 18:20, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

perhaps cite Occupy Wall Street as an example of a TAZ — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 04:18, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Burning Man[edit]

I think there is far too much information (irrelevant information, that is) about Burning Man in this article. A brief mention of Burning Man as an example of a T.A.Z. is fine, but we do not need all this extra detail about "BMorg" and its supposed treatment of its employees. Thoughts? ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 15:42, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

I think it's fine. It's being presented many other places as well as this article as being somewhat of a TAZ, but that may not be a good example - those extra details you are complaining about are the counterpoint. And it's not like the article is huge and bloated anyway. --Gwern (contribs) 05:03 9 February 2008 (GMT)

Maybe someone can dig up a pertinent quote from Larry Harvey. Aftern the 2011 burn, that is. Kortoso (talk) 18:19, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Book or concept?[edit]

Judging by the title, one might believe this article is about the concept of the T.A.Z., rather than about the book. If this is about the book, I would suggest a page move to a title more in keeping with the title of the book. If, though, this is about the concept, which is probably a better idea, I would suggest merging the unreferenced Permanent Autonomous Zone article with this one. The latter article is largely repetitive of this one. Any thoughts? ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 17:25, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

will not a concespt make it get lost in wawe of postmodernist care for itself ideas and not what taz actuley are abut ? donedell —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:52, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

WHY why not put a link to somwher that have some posting discussen abut the conspet or wher his ideas are take from foculte since its a many ideas sugstions and ppl want to share ideas i guss taz is what you can do yourself by choose to buy a lonly planet or set up a tent i a beach in el salvadore? paz maybe are foks join togehter like marjuina gorwher in canda seteup a sub system for live and exhange things , paz are more abut go somwher build somthing taz can you just read focult taz drink a redbuill and write dowen your ideas then make a plan for what to do ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:50, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Could you please repeat that in English? --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord2 18:01, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

I think it should be concept. The phrase is used as a term to characterize physical entities. For example, Richard Grant in his documentary "American Nomads" calls Slab City a Temporary Autonomous Zone. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 20:52, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Merger proposal[edit]

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The result was no consensus - It's been more than 12 months with no real consensus either way. Feel free to suggest it again if you feel strongly about it. Stalwart111 06:44, 26 March 2014 (UTC)


Really, the Pirate Utopia concept does not seem to exist apart from the concept of TAZ. That is, the term was coined by Mr. Wilson and defined by him. I am not claiming they did not exist, or that they weren't real utopias. Rather Mr. Wilson is the only author who claims they might exist, and it seems that he uses the term to describe a hypothetical/theoretical model. Anyway, the other article is quite limited, and could easily be a part of this one. Tinynanorobots (talk) 20:46, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Weak oppose. While the term "pirate utopia" may have been coined by Hakim Bey, people both before and besides him have imagined utopian pirate societies. However, the article at this point does not convey that, and more problematically it could be difficult to convey that without getting into original research territory. Can we give this a few months? If there aren't some good, secondary-sourced, non-OR, Bey-independent expansions by around July then I would support a merge. Bacchiad (talk) 00:47, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
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