Talk:The Cattleman

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name change[edit]

Its called the Cattleman Restaurant in the two sources I added. The word "the" is lower case, and the words "Cattleman" and "Restaurant" capitalized. Was the first one named something different than the other ones? Dream Focus 23:55, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi, Dream. I'm going by the trademarked logo of the restaurant, in the infobox. It's called "the Cattleman" (rather than "Cattleman Restaurant") in the 1961 and 1997 New York Times cites, and "The Cattleman" both in its display ad and in the accompanying list (under "46-53th Streets, East Side") on page 86 of the cited in June 23 1980 New York magazine. I'm sure it was called Cattleman Restaurant colloquially, but from these high-RS cites, it looks like "The Cattleman" was the name as trademarked (as per the circle-R "registered trademark" in the logo). --Tenebrae (talk) 01:18, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
  • here's the trademark (hope the link works) [1].--Milowenthasspoken 02:38, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Got it, at http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4003:614sd6.4.14
Word Mark THE CATTLEMAN
Goods and Services (EXPIRED) IC 034. US 009. G & S: MATCHBOXES. FIRST USE: 19590900. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19590900; (EXPIRED) IC 016. US 038. G & S: SIMULATED NEWSPAPERS, RECIPE BOOKS, POSTCARDS, ILLUSTRATED SPECIAL MENU CARDS AND BROCHURES, SHOPPING AND THEATER GUIDE, AND WINE BOOKLETS. FIRST USE: 19590900. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19590900
Mark Drawing Code (5) WORDS, LETTERS, AND/OR NUMBERS IN STYLIZED FORM [NOTE from Tenebrae: The logo is just two words, so not sure why it says five]
Serial Number 72290999
Filing Date February 14, 1968
Current Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1A
Registration Number 0880732
Registration Date November 18, 1969
Owner (REGISTRANT) CATTLEMAN, INC., THE CORPORATION NEW YORK 5 E. 45TH ST. NEW YORK NEW YORK 10017
Assignment Recorded ASSIGNMENT RECORDED
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Affidavit Text SECT 15. SECT 8 (6-YR).
Live/Dead Indicator DEAD --Tenebrae (talk) 05:04, 8 October 2012 (UTC)