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NPOV

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I'm noticing some not-so-neutral content coming most recently via these edits from two IPs, 130.132.173.31 and 74.129.76.107. If this content is to remain, there needs to be a balance presented. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:21, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Controversies

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Larry Wilmore has been accused of transphobia and intolerance in a segment on Bruce Jenner on his April 27, 2015 episode of The Nightly Show.[1] His segment was criticised as tone-deaf for his use of comedy routines focusing on transgender terminology,[2] the comparison of the experience of transgendered people to that of Pinnochio's transformation from "puppet" to "real boy" in the popular children's book,[3] and the intentional use of the offensive word 'tranny,' despite being told explicitly by several transgender panelists repeatedly that saying it was extremely offensive.[4] This criticism came from media critics[5][6][7][8] and was mirrored by an overwhelmingly negative reaction to the segments on Twitter.[9] Wilmore has not apologised for his comments, nor has he publicly recognised the backlash.

While there might be some merit to the transgender segment inspired by Bruce Jenner, none of the sources mentioned took the POV laden approach to the prose in wikipedia's voice to describe the criticism. Moreso, the criticism was far shorter and more simplistic than the WP statements written to analyze it. This is a POV laden subject. There is critique about the comedic and possibly the journalistic quality of Wilmore's presentation, but they are far from accusing Wilmore of transphobia and intolerance, which is a personal accusation that should fall under WP:BLP rules. Instead of reporting a "backlash" which might make this incident more newsworthy, it seems to be calling for an as yet non-existent backlash. Trackinfo (talk) 07:15, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I'm the one who added the above transphobia edit. You made a fair point and I won't contest your edit at all.

130.132.173.31 (talk) 16:04, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

References from removed content

References

  1. ^ http://www.cc.com/full-episodes/zrw86b/the-nightly-show-april-27--2015---bruce-jenner-s-gender-transition-season-1-ep-01048
  2. ^ http://www.cc.com/video-clips/tgi5n0/the-nightly-show-word-blerd---ian-harvie
  3. ^ http://www.cc.com/video-clips/2f85a3/the-nightly-show-transition-of-champions---pinocchio
  4. ^ http://www.cc.com/video-clips/lcf053/the-nightly-show-panel---bruce-jenner-s-transition-announcement
  5. ^ http://www.thebacklot.com/tvot-john-stamos-full-house-olsen-twins-kylie-minogue-young-hungry/04/2015/
  6. ^ http://tvline.com/2015/04/28/larry-wilmore-bruce-jenner-video-segment-controversy/
  7. ^ http://www.thefashionspot.com/buzz-news/latest-news/581421-bruce-jenner-threatens-to-sue/
  8. ^ http://digg.com/video/larry-wilmores-coverage-of-bruce-jenner-was-staggeringly-tonedeaf
  9. ^ http://gothamist.com/2015/04/28/video_larry_wilmore_does_painfully.php

Ratings slump

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Regarding the following line in the article:

Some have claimed this ratings decline is a result of the show focusing on "Black issues" more predominantly than its predecessor.[1][2]

Neither of the two provided sources attribute the ratings decline to the show's focus on "black issues" - the latter does not reference ratings at all, and was actually published during the first week of the show. This being the case, I've removed the line in question from the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.249.109.53 (talk • contribs)


In response to this unsigned comment, this show did experience a clear ratings drop from the Colbert Report, and there has been much ink spilled theorizing why. There should be some explanation, as the current article primarily highlights positive initial reviews (which have shifted over time in many sources) Jbbdude (talk) 02:39, 29 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Garcia, Tonya. "LARRY WILMORE'S 'THE NIGHTLY SHOW' IS DOWN ALMOST 40% FROM COLBERT IN THE RATINGS". madamenoire. Retrieved 30 April 2015.
  2. ^ Gay, Verne. "'The Nightly Show with Larry Wilmore': Review". Newsday. Retrieved 30 April 2015.

Daily Show "spin-off"?!

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The Colbert Report can be described as a spin-off The Daily Show, since Colbert used the same character in that series that he used in the Daily Show. However, Wilmore does not host his show in-character. Why would the Nightly Show be a "spin-off" just because it happens to be on the same network and features a comedian from the Daily Show? --SchutteGod (not logged in) 70.181.181.78 (talk) 19:00, 12 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It shares producers (Jon Stewart, Rory Albanese, Busboy) with The Daily Show, is shot in the same studio that The Daily Show and Colbert Report formerly used, and has been referred to as a sibling or spin-off in many sources, including official Comedy Central statements. I believe it is sufficiently sourced already. Jbbdude (talk) 02:39, 29 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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