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This page was proposed for deletion by Paisarepa (talk · contribs) on 3 March 2021 with the comment:
Does not meet WP:GNG or WP:NPROF. No sources except obituaries.
It was contested by Andrew Davidson (talk · contribs) on 2021-03-03

This article was nominated for deletion on 8 March 2021. The result of the discussion was speedy keep.

A fact from Theodore Cohen (chemist) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 26 March 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Ted Cohen's romance was set to music by Isaac Asimov?

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:33, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Professor Asimov, who inspired Professor Cohen's career in chemistry

... that Ted Cohen's romance was put to music by Isaac Asimov (pictured)?

Reviewed: Broad front versus narrow front controversy in World War II
Comment: Currently at AfD but unlikely to be deleted. The Asimov anecdotes come from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

5x expanded by David Eppstein (talk) and Andrew Davidson (talk). Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk) at 12:14, 5 March 2021 (UTC).[reply]

Reviewing...long enough, 5x expanded, nice hook, no copyvio issues. QPQ provided. Will go through in detail and complete soon. Whispyhistory (talk) 11:54, 6 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1: ... that Ted Cohen was guided towards science instead of medicine after a chance encounter with Isaac Asimov while waiting tables?

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Maury Markowitz (talk • contribs) 16:43, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: It seems odd to use Asimov's image here, and it's not used in the article. Maury Markowitz (talk) 16:48, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

...@David Eppstein:, @Andrew Davidson:. Referenced, hook in article. Agree with not using image that is not in article. His biggest impact and achievement is in the laboratory synthesis of what makes up the scaffolding of drugs, one important aspect of drug discovery and development. May I suggest

tidy lead so that some of also appears in main text eg the synthesis of phenols.
Move references to main text once appropriate.
Add his most important publications to reflect what he is known for.
Expand, if only a little, on the synthesis of phenols.

I'm glad the notability tag is now removed. He appears clearly notable to me. An alternative hook based on drug discovery would be good. These are suggestions, otherwise will pass it by dyk rules. Thank you and well done. Whispyhistory (talk) 03:56, 9 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have added the Asimov picture to the article. Of course, it would be better if we could use a picture of the subject but DYK rules require a free image and we don't seem to have one.

I might do more on the chemistry but the sources don't go into great detail about this and we must avoid improper synthesis (pun intentional). David Eppstein may have some more ideas.

Andrew🐉(talk) 11:08, 9 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

...@Andrew Davidson:. Image okay, good luck if you find more on the chemistry. Whispyhistory (talk) 10:45, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Just a comment, but I'd recommend promoting this hook without the image, feels like a stretch to include it. It's technically OK, but there are a lot of promoted hooks with images, and most are directly related to the improved article, which this is not. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 14:02, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]